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its particularly interesting that in several news sources such as article you linked that the cuts on his arms are referred to as animal or dog bites, and the fact that the homeowners rehomed their German Shepard dog shortly after.

from things I’ve read in non-mainstream sources the theory defense may be pursuing is that there were issues and he may not have had a coat if he did go inside There are clearly more questions than answers at this point but still enough questions to warrant that a family friend of the home he...

I personally don’t think it’s a skirt it looks like white joggers and she has a denim jacket tied around waist

Defense attorneys in Karen Read case point to others they say are culpable in death of John O’Keefe

The victim was a Boston police officer. Many of those at the home were law enforcement including Boston and Canton, MA law enforcement and town government positions.Those who are theorized as potentially involved had livelihoods at risk. The investigating officer was friends with all those...

This is where I’m at as well, though will admit some of the details today were startling. I can still reconcile them within the framework of this though.

I’m familiar with where she lives and with the restaurant (have been there) the takeout ordered from. It’s definiteiy unnecessarily far for takeout for sure.

Wow that was a LOT to take in. I’m thinking I need to reflect on it a bit. This case has me so conflicted in so many ways.

Agree on the Ambien. Ambien stories are literally crazy.

Or she did go to one of those three houses…

In MA it’s the states burden to prove criminal responsibility, and criminal responsibility in the instance of mental illness comes down to whether the illness results in the person being substantially unable to appreciate either the criminality or wrongfulness of their conduct or substantially...

If I had to guess, MOO, is she’d been inpatient and recently discharged home but still attending a 5 day a week outpatient program.

l’ve struggled with these same thoughts since hearing about this. Where does culpability start and where does it end. We know to have compassion for the mentally ill (I hope) but where should it end? Should it end? Can you have empathy but not forgiveness? I don’t know either.

I’ve heard the same locally about his having just gone out to get take but didn’t realize he’d been working from home to support. Then the unthinkable in minutes.

Amen.

Heartbreaking from every angle. The availability of adequate mental health treatment and support is seriously lacking and shameful. It’s also gotten a million times worse since Covid.

<modsnip - quoted post removed - verification needed> Thank you for updating I’ve wondered if he’s been found and am sad to learn he remains missing.

Ah, I’ve hoped for this news in this case! Tick Tock, you know who you are..

I‘m curious what are people’s thoughts regarding wether this was pre-mediated or if a fight escalated in violence and led to murder? I’m leaning toward an escalation but not sure we have all the facts yet.