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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    @ terryb808 You're right: At first glance, the hatch in the wall appeared nothing more than an opening about a metre up from the cellar floor. A fairly large concrete slab served as a step up to look inside. The hole, about two or three feet square, provided access to the underside of the...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    There are two big problems for me with SJL being under the floor of that pub. One is this point about there being continual access to it by pest control people, and possibly plumbers and electricians. There is even an actual access hatch set into the cellar wall to enable this. As we also know...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    If her body was hidden under the floor, it could be in pretty good condition - injuries etc could still be detectable. In that location there are really only two people who could have put her there. The reservation I have about the underfloor space is that DV was shown it by staff, who told him...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    This is the likeliest possibility if the PoW were to come up empty. It still presents challenges as a hypothesis though. - When she left the office, SJL herself didn't know where her car was. A colleague had borrowed it, and she had to ask. This makes it appreciably harder for a stalker to car...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    I agree with much of that. The PoW needs to be eliminated, and if it doesn't provide a crime scene, then the case is insoluble because there is no body, witness or useful sighting of her after she left the office. Anecdotally, I once read that married people mainly have their illicit affairs...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    That's very interesting if so - either the whole thing gets knocked down flat or they redo it inside. Either way I don't see how the floor remains undisturbed. Unfortunately, brickies who stumble on a 36-years-hidden body while ripping up a floor are going to destroy or contaminate a lot of the...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    I think it's just that to DV the PoW is clearly another place SJL might have gone. If it looked like she went to the chemist to pick up a prescription, and the chemist has and always has had just a shop floor onto the pavement and a staff washroom, that's not very interesting. What's interesting...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    Given that many of us here suppose SJL died when she went to retrieve her stuff from the pub, it's a very good call to consider exactly how it ever came to be lost there in the first place. If I have understood correctly, we have it only from AL that the PoW wasn't one of SJL's regular haunts...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    The relief manager told them she hadn't been. Yep.
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    If she had a job interview, or a medical appointment, then given the high profile nature of the case I would expect the company or the doctor to contact the police Yes, quite. Not only did the diary entry leave her insufficient time for any such errand, but if that had been where she went...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    Complete and thorough summary. Agree 100%. She was expected back within the normal duration of a viewing so she could not have been headed anywhere more than about 20 minutes away. At one point, I did wonder if she went somewhere for an afternoon quickie with one of the fan club. Or for a job...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    I'm not really sure what to make of that kind of link. It amounts to speculation that this unsolved crime might have been committed by that bloke, because he's a criminal, but with nil evidence. It is actually less persuasive than the idea that JC might have murdered SJL, because JC actually is...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    There are lots that are similar if not identical. Rachel Nickell, Colin Stagg / Robert Napper; a similar fiasco. The police fixated on the wrong man, repeatedly tried to frame him, sulkily refused to concede error when he was acquitted and insinuated that the court had got it wrong, and...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    The huge irony is that SJL's enviably busy sex life was, probably, never relevant anyway. The three reasons CV might assault - and, deliberately or accidentally, kill - SJL would be a grudge, or lust, or money. I really can't think of any others. Unless he somehow wanted to get her to the PoW...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    Yes, it could. From an initial read of DV's book, you'd not conclude that CV had anything to do with it. DV is all about finding out if CV's memory could be that selectively good. It's only when you finish that you work out that, if she really is under that floor, CV's the only person DV meets...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    I think to accept CV's version of events as correct, we have to assume that he's recalled the general drift correctly, but has misremembered the details. Essentially he says that SJL called as she was leaving to see she'd be round later, but with no time specified. A woman called Sarah then...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    @TimFisher1965 She was apparently speaking to the PoW - for the second time that morning - while getting up to go. So it looks like the visit was rearranged. There does seem to be a possibility that CV's account is partly correct. The problems with it are that nobody from Sturgis recalls...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    The window for SJL to mention this to anyone other than Sturgis was actually pretty short. If we figure the bank opened at 9.30, which back then they did, then the PoW phones the bank after then. The bank works out where to reach SJL and does so. SJL then calls the PoW, so probably not much...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    Not sure. From DV's book, AL knew about the lost chequebook but now thinks it was lost on Friday. SF vaguely remembered SJL mentioning it. It is an interesting point. If two other people knew about it, it suggests she had mentioned this in the office. When she went - in DV's sequence of events...
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    UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

    According to the AS book, when the "reconstruction" was aired, there were a number of calls from the public pointing out that the artist's impression looked a lot like MG. The police just laughed, apparently, and dismissed all these as simply mistaken suggestions that MG must have done it. They...
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