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  1. Justice101

    Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #181

    I also think RA did it. I think he probably fantasized for a long time and then the opportunity presented itself and he took control. if not for some bumbling by LE, this case would have been tied up and packaged within a year.
  2. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    That makes sense. Most men would take a woman shouting in their face as only a minimal threat. "What are they going to do: Slap me??!! No big deal."
  3. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    I am a little surprised by the verdict but feel they followed the letter of the law in Wisconsin and that is the best you can hope for.
  4. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    I think in stand your ground states this would have been a different verdict. 38 states are stand your ground states. Wisconsin is not one of them. Mine is also one of the ones that is NOT. Here is a list...
  5. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    If we are confused then the jury is also confused. . we've seen the video more than them!
  6. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    probably both. A key question might be, when the stabbing occurred, was it provoked? if there was disagreement, they probably talked about what they would need to see (or not see) in the video to be certain (if that is even possible). What makes me feel good that the jury is on track for an...
  7. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    We've all seen the video multiple times...so it stands to reason they would want to look at it (or parts of it) again.. .and maybe again and again.
  8. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    Gray Hughes is phenomenal at recreating (graphically) Probable Cause Affidavits. Re: Moscow Murders and Delphi Murders. That is his true calling. Otherwise, I'm not all that interested in his analysis although his logic & power of observation seem to be very good..
  9. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    That is important if true. Was that established as fact even though not on video?
  10. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    If you are rightfully defending yourself, it doesn't matter in terms of the law if you shoot them in the leg, torso or the head. To me, same thing.. why stab someone and not do it hard enough to incapacitate them if you are truly defending yourself. just my 2 cents' worth
  11. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    He doesn't have to warn them that he has a weapon to defend himself. What if he warned them then they all jumped him and beat the living crap out of him and maybe even drowned him because then they would have an excuse to defend themselves. Like I said before, neither party was 100% right or...
  12. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    I'm sort of with you on this. But only 60% sure he was acting in self defense in relation technically to the law. Wonder when there will be a verdict? Tomorrow? the next day?
  13. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    This will be interesting. Poor jury.. Tough to decide on this one. Not clear cut at all. Guilt on both sides.
  14. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    From what little I know about the law, as an example, if 4 people come in to rob you and only one had a gun (or otherwise attacks you with a weapon or deadly force), you have every right to shoot every single one of them. Who has time or inclination at a chaotic time like that to determine if...
  15. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    Misdemeanor. But that one had $$$$$ implications due to the wild goose chase they had police go on for the lie. In general, I think you can lie to anyone... but not in court or in a sworn document.
  16. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    Me being (what I think is) an objective person, I am still on the fence. However, I would lean 60% to an acquittal due to plenty of reasonable doubt. But I have only watched the video and read some stuff here and do not know the exact law that the jury is trying to decide on. Again, I'll bet...
  17. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    Lying to the police is not a chargeable offense, correct? It does show deception on the defendant's part but not sure that really matters in this case where we have a video.
  18. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    Interesting. Was that learned from testimony or from video or pictures?
  19. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    I hope the heck those are not the jurors being pictured and instead just spectators in court.
  20. Justice101

    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    In law I think it depends on if the victim laid hands on the assailant who thought they were being attacked. Usually with women, it is clear cut because women in general do not have the potential to inflict deadly force on the assailant without use of a weapon. In the vast majority of those...

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