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WOW, You have done your serial killer homework. After months of researching all these similiar cases Gary Leiterman is exactly whom I had come up with. I thought If she was murdered by a serial killer it would be him. But when I talked to the Detective in Kenosha he said he had a main suspect in...

Yes he did, and I feel it is very wrong of him to use Ancestry.com as his venue to discuss Mary Ellen's murder. I can appreciate his desire to assist getting to the bottom of this, but he should have reached out to our family FIRST prior to posting his theory. He believes she was murdered by a...

You nailed it. That exactly what I want to do. However there is a time and a place for everything. LE and I have discussed this and I will be making a trip there as soon as I am able. I stinks to have to be patient, believe me. You must have been a fly on the wall when I expressed what I wanted...

Yes and he was. He states he grew up with them and was friends with Mary Ellens brother. Robert Crane where are you????? Why won't you contact me? Why won't you contact LE? I would hope your motives are not just for profits of a book, but to offer the answers to this mystery. We should all be...

Well that just it, they have. LE has had someone thru the years as the suspect(s) had "shot off their mouths" about it and that is what has led them to believe what they belive. I am trying to track that person down. You know who you are and I would be forever grateful if you were to contact me...

jealousy is one of the oldest motivations to murder. I appreciate your thoughts but what do you believe a renters motive would be? There was no sexual assault of any type. I would venture to say that these borders were probably very poor and more than likely didn't even own cars. I'm sure the...

not sure of that. I am trying to nail down the identity of this person and therefore will be able to definetly get details of their lives. Given the way Mary Ellen was murdered I bet this person did lots of wierd creepy things and was probably know to be a bully and that is why no one has ever...

Thank you for all that. Yes, that is what I am banking on, people KNOW. I think they have been afraid to talk. And I am the family detective LOL I was just checking to see who posted that article I havent' seen, so thanks its McSpy, good. So sorry to hear about of common unfortunate...

Well everyone I hope I was able to answer all your questions. I promised I would. Bottem line for me is I think this crime was committed by two people. A man and a woman for all the reasons I have stated throughout this thread. To recap: It's clearly personal, full of deep anger, feelings of...

Thank you, please read my post on page 4, #104. I hope I have clarified some things.

Kenosha in 1967 had a population of approx 50,000 people but it was the kind of town that eveyone knew everyone and their business. There was "talk" at the time of Mary Ellens death so it was freely discussed and rumors flew. We all know that police start looking closest to home of a victim, who...

Kimster, I have been working on a picture for a while and I finally located one today. Unfortunately It won't arrive in time while the case is being featured but when I get it I will let you know and check on where I could post it. Thank you so much for featuring this case. 44 years for this...

@Fridaybaker........You have been paying attention and you nailed it. Atleast that's what I believe. Too bad they couldn't have proved it.

No it's just that I would never name a potential suspect publicly. It would be wrong and slanderous to those potentially innocent as well as interferring with an ongoing case.

The article you are referring to is an article I have been looking for. Could you help me locate it or post the link if you have it. Thank you so much. Mary Ellen definetly was not pregnant re:confirmed-autopsy

The police definetly looked at serial killers deeply then and over the years, but their investigation lead them away due to details of Mary Ellens crime.

EXACTLY........Was he one of her previous bo's or was interested and she blew him off. Now he's complaining to the exgirlfriend of Mary Ellens current boyfriend. They are both angry and hurt, raging inside, "she's just a big B!$#%, she destroys everyones lives, she thinks she so hot, she's got...

Yes they were concrete block and yes from the yard. there werent side windows toward the back of the hearse. There is a picture of it in one of the articles I posted earlier in the thread I think page 2, I believe they were placed around her to conceal her and there was a broken piece of...

EXACTLY......What if it were both. He wanted Mary Ellen, she wasn't interested or had been and blew him off, now she just a B!+@$, he's complaining to the exgirlfriend of Mary Ellen's current boyfriend, now they both hate her. She's got to go, she just destroys everyones lives, she deserves to...

Her face was stabbed, 3 times, however not deep and more like cuts. I think her arms could have been being held down while a 2nd perp did the stabbing. She had no defensive wounds on her hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!