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    VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Retrial Day 42

    I have been following this trial since I first joined Websleuths and have found it to be a roller coaster ride in terms of emotions. Not contributed a great deal in the way of commentary as the time difference in my part of the world gets in the way of timely observation. However, I have greatly...
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    Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/01/14 In recess

    It is puzzling that the pedophilia allegation would have any mitigation value for the defence. Firstly, if you take it as fact (which it isn't) that Jodi caught him looking at a naked picture of a young boy, it obviously didn't worry her to the extent of her discontinuing sexual relations with...
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    Post sentencing discussion

    South African attorney, Martin Hood said: "They have to set out the grounds which they believe she made a mistake but the appeal is not only against the conviction but also the sentence. It means they effectively have two opportunities to revisit this case. "They can argue the conviction was...
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    Post sentencing discussion

    The process for the appeal will be to file legal papers at the High Court in South Africa and await a decision on whether they have grounds to pursue the case. If that is refused, they can then go directly to the Supreme Court of Appeal...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #59 - 14.21.10, Day 48 ~ sentencing~

    They are both looking down reading the notes.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #59 - 14.21.10, Day 48 ~ sentencing~

    Well, under 15 minutes to wait for verdict. The trial has surely proved to be a roller coaster of emotions and opinions. I would like to thank everyone who has taken the time to analyse and give their versions of what they think transpired that fateful and tragic night. I personally don't think...
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    Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 2

    Published in the Australian, day before the SMH article, much the same news......this bit is interesting though. As we stand on the road, the policeman invites us to draw conclusions. If William had been “playing chase-ies” with his sister, where would he run? It is unlikely that a three year...
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    GUILTY Thailand - David Miller, 24, & Hannah Witheridge, 23, Koh Tao, 15 Sep 2014

    It appears that there were two perpetrators to Hannah's rape... Police found the DNA of two people in semen taken from Witheridge's body, the chief of Thailand's forensic police, Pornchai Suteerakune, told Reuters on Thursday. The DNA does not match Miller's, nor any of the samples taken from...
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    Marius Du Toit, former South African state prosecutor, magistrate and now a criminal defence lawyer has been interviewed on RN Breakfast today and he is of the view that Oscar's disability won't be taken into account during sentencing. What will be evaluated is the degree of negligence exhibited...
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    More of what we have been saying here:.... "Much has been made of the extreme emotion Pistorius has shown in court – sobbing, dribbling, retching and vomiting. But you can’t measure remorse by the degree of emotion displayed. I’m sure he does deeply regret his actions now, but who is he...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    I know a few of us Websleuthers were wondering what Gerrie Nel was doing when the verdict was being delivered. He appeared to be industriusly taking notes with his head down for most of the time. Maybe the following extract gives us a clue. "From the moment on Thursday when it became clear...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    The placement of the bullets is very pertinent. They were not fired in a scattered pattern, above head height, or near the floor. Each bullet was fired at waist height close to the toilet door handle. This was a conscious decision and, in my mind, aimed to kill the person behind the door. Oscar...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    That's as I understand it.....also if Masipa does not grant the appeal, an application can be made directly to the Supreme Court of Appeal (to be dealt with by two judges on the record of the proceedings) and they may either grant leave to appeal or refuse the petition.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    The state appears severely disappointed by the judgement. "I don't have words, it's pathetic," says police photographer Bennie van Staden after the court proceedings are adjourned. http://news.yahoo.com/pistorius-verdict-live-report-103229826.html
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Gael ‏@GaeMar01 1h The way the #OscarVerdict is concluding I wouldn't be surprised if the Steenkamp family get billed for a new bathroom door @AlexThompson04 https://twitter.com/search?q=oscar%20verdict&src=typd
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    I believe there is a Supreme Court of Appeal in South Africa which would hear the case but the process may take years. IMO.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    The International Paralympic Committee (IPC) has put out a statement following the conviction of Pistorius: Following today’s verdict, our thoughts remain with all those who have been affected by this terrible tragedy, in particular the family and friends of Reeva Steenkamp, who sadly...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Nel says it is not in the interests of justice to allow someone convicted of negligent killing to be released on bail. http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/sep/12/pistorius-verdict-live-judge-rule-culpable-homicide
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Nel says that since bail was initially granted, Pistorius has sold his house. He does not have a property now, and lives with family. While on bail, he was involved in an incident at a nightclub, in which he was thrown out of the club. (You can read details of that incident here.) Nel refers to...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Nel says “he (Oscar) caused the death of an innocent woman”. “Lengthy imprisonment” is probable.
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