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  1. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial - *GUILTY*

    Something I recall from sitting in on the TB trial is Jennifer Trehearne explaining to the court that one of MS's raps was about raping a female with a gun, and thus it should not be admissible because it was highly prejudicial. I never heard it mentioned again. I'm hoping ABro or another...
  2. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    It makes perfect sense. Same ***** happened in the TB trial. IMHO everyone “in the know” is convinced that DM and MS are guilty, but there’s a legal chess game that has to be played to determine whether they go to prison or not.
  3. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    I believe the log bench and stools likely referred to sitting around the incinerator. The sausages could be nothing, but the timing is suspicious in relation to the log pics and the subsequent events of TB’s murder. They did after all refer to the incinerator as a BBQ, and DM had texted...
  4. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    They’re all catching up on Websleuths. :online:
  5. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Definitely inadmissible. Unfortunately I cannot offer a media source because it was publication-banned until now, but I was in court when the Crown pleaded the judge to reverse his ruling and allow this text after MS testified about his knowledge of the incinerator and its intended use. The...
  6. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    I find it particularly fascinating to think about what criminal defence lawyers should do when they know their client is guilty. No matter what, the lawyer should strive to ensure their client has a fair trial. But when a lawyer knows for certain their client is guilty, how hard should they...
  7. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Given what DM had, why throw pumpkins at cars on the highway, or commit arson, or petty theft, or rob a convenience store? DM’s life was filled with thrills and adventures, and he had no problem spending whatever it took to pursue them. I honestly believe that DM’s murders were...
  8. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    One possibility is that they ran out of fuel when they burned LB on July 23rd. Recall that in the morning of the 23rd, SS performed an initial burn cycle on the incinerator which lasted several hours. In the afternoon, DM searched for places to purchase propane, but he may have forgot to refill...
  9. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    RSBM. According to DM’s cell tower pings, he never visited his farm between July 23 and early September. That would suggest that whatever SS saw/smelled in late August had been left in there since July 23.
  10. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    The 3500 text message was disallowed in the TB trial, BUT Craig Fraser alluded to it when he was cross-examining MS: “The plan that you and Dellen Millard had was to steal, was to kill and was to burn,” Fraser said to Smich, who has been testifying in his own defence for two weeks...
  11. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Millard texted Smich: “The BBQ is the last piece of the 3500 puzzle.” Wow, why didn’t we hear that one in the TB trial?!
  12. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    DM wanted to pimp LB, but she went into the business without him. Hm. Also, that text from DM to MS, “I’m down to merk people if it’s a big enough payoff” pretty much confirms what their true plans were. I wonder why that text was disallowed?
  13. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Whenever I think about DM killing LB during his 1 hour mission, I wonder why he wouldn’t just take her body right to the farm after. There is no reason to carry a dead body back into his house and then leave it there all night and ship it out the next day, in broad daylight! Why pull an...
  14. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Do you consider what DM told others about the incinerator’s intended use to be credible? I don’t. IMHO they were lies he told people when they asked what that giant smoker thing with “The Eliminator” written across it was. MS’s participation in the incinerator was...
  15. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    That’s very true. Going back to your original point about MS’s request for a dog and bones being in line with a plan for a pet cremation business, I don’t see that at all. IMHO the evidence in this trial shows: MS wanting something wet, something with bones, and then...
  16. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    One of MS’s texts was, “we should get me a dog.” BBM. I believe this shows that MS had more ownership/interest in the incinerator project beyond just helping DM. And MS was not entering the pet cremation business. IMO their plan was to murder people and burn their bodies. This...
  17. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.11.17 - Charge to the Jury - Day 3

    Agreed. If DM killed LB shortly after he picked her up, why wait until the next morning to take her body to the farm? He could've killed her, brought her body to his farm, and been back home by 10pm. Instead, there is some kind of all-nighter type event that required ordering a new bed the next...
  18. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.08.17 - Charge to the Jury - Day 2

    My take: MS's aiding in acquiring the incinerator and such indicates planning for future murders. We don't know that he was in on a plan to kill LB specifically, but IMO his close relationship with DM at the time makes it likely that he was. That's JMO and I'm doing my best to ignore the TB...
  19. billandrew

    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.08.17 - Charge to the Jury - Day 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30ZlQyVvhw

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