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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    I agree that this perp probably has a multi-tool...but I've never seen one as big as the object in his/her hand.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Honestly, I have a hard time pulling anything out of these videos...I can create anything out of nothing if I look long enough. I am always amazed at the low quality of most surveillance camera videos.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    I do like the garbage bag idea...my smaller bags do come in a box like that. It would be a much more useful thing to pick up.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    It would have to impair it to some degree...especially in regard to the sense of determining the source. I personally would HATE to be wearing a helmet in such a situation. Note that military combat helmets don't cover the ears as much as the perp's riot helmet. The riot helmet is for cases...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Somebody suggested a saran wrap (or tin foil) box. That does makes sense as something the perp would find and it does fit the shape profile. Way, way, back someone mentioned using saran wrap to surprise/suffocate the victim. What about a box of large zip lock bags...like the freezer size?
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    The only hammers I found with such rings are 3 times the price of the cheaper hammers. From a manufacturing standpoint, it would be much more expensive to add the ring.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Yes. It is difficult to tell in the video if something is shiny and metallic or simply bright white. Once the frame grabs are uploaded, you can step through them and decide for yourself. 78% uploaded... So far, that hammer is the ONLY one which matches the appearance...but it is not even sold...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    No blow up necessary...see below. I have found that you can really see things more clearly when you step through several frames...you can see what moves with what and is a part of what. There are several frames which show the hammer as it is swung back...here are two: (as usual, click on the...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Google claw hammer and framing hammer and see how many have the protective ring at the top of the grip.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    We've got one (or more) folks who are going to distribute in similar fashion from the file I am uploading. I didn't realize that everyone didn't have screen grabs...much better than viewing the video.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    In the frame grabs, you can see that the perp pulls out a long(er) pry bar and applies it, then puts it away again on his/her person. The frame grab upload should be done in an hour or so, then you can see for yourself.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    All right folks...this is a little weird regarding the hammer. Need some construction guys on this one... Googled claw hammer. I figured that a LOT of hammers had a ring at the top of the grip. Only a few that are displayed do so...and only one has a ring perpendicular to the handle...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    After I get the file uploaded to the site I am working with, you can download the zip file as a test and then put the zip OR the extracted files in your dropbox...that way you will be a mirror site. ...my computer went to sleep last night about halfway through the upload...having to restart...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    I am uploading a zip file of the frame images to a website. It will hopefully be ready for download in the morning. Downloading is usually faster than uploading, just not sure how long it's going to take. I will post the URL to the file when it is done.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    I believe it does. I am assuming the perp picked it up. It's an odd size. Box of cookies? Cardboard or shiny metal? In one shot it looks like it has recessed sides, but this may just be shadowing. Also, a shiny object appears on the perps right leg at the front -- like a flashlight...or...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Looks like a standard claw hammer. Note white ring at top of grip (click each image for full size):
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    I have extracted the surveillance videos to individual frames (PNG format) which can be viewed by any image viewer program. I know some of you might not have the tools to do that and may want to view each frame. You can see an example below. If enough people want access to the frame images, I...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Aahh...never heard the term, but I've known the feeling. Looking at the surveillance videos again, this perp is amazingly calm. Doesn't seem to stop once and just listen quietly...something I would have done every few seconds. There are a lot of noises in a building, especially on a rainy...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    Regarding the perp touching the walls... If you've ever "explored" a place in which you were trespassing, there is a tendency to touch things as you pass them...everything... You are so hyped and vigilant that there is a feeling of disorientation, and touching things seems to solidify your...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #27

    It's the little things... If it was determined that the perp did NOT enter via the door after beating the lockset apart, then I would have to say the perp is probably not LE or firefighter. I cannot believe that persons of either of those two professions could not defeat the lock after beating...

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