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    CA - Jonathan Gerrish, Ellen Chung, daughter, 1 & dog, suspicious death remote hiking area, Aug 2021

    It’s possible they had gone through their original water and refilled from the local water source. They’re testing the water they had left. I think hyperthermia contributed to the deaths regardless of whether it was the cause of death or not, surely it didn’t help any possibility of surviving...
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    CA - Jonathan Gerrish, Ellen Chung, daughter, 1 & dog, suspicious death remote hiking area, Aug 2021

    It’s possible they had gone through their original water and refilled from the local water source. They’re testing the water they had left. I think hyperthermia contributed to the deaths regardless of whether it was the cause of death or not, surely it didn’t help any possibility of surviving...
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    CA - Jonathan Gerrish, Ellen Chung, daughter, 1 & dog, suspicious death remote hiking area, Aug 2021

    The sheriff says they are no longer considering homicide and are confident they can rule it out as cause of death . They probably arent considering heat stroke because they still had plenty of water and the autopsies would have shown signs of hyperthermia like cerebral edema, visceral petechial...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Yes, I agree. However, DCFS doesn’t always take that step. I never implied the police wouldn’t have taken it seriously but if DCFS chooses not to pursue it, there’s nothing the police can do. DCFS has to go to court with evidence they believe a child is in immediate danger. Then a judge has to...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Seems a horrible twist of fate for them to meet and produce children just so they could torture them. They were perfectly horrible for each other. It seems together they became their most sadist sick. JC lost custody of her first son because of the evil they were together <modsnip: quoted post...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Her mother reported to the court JC paid him with painkillers to represent her during her divorce proceedings so a resounding yes to your question.
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Yes. This is the only way they could have been forced to show AJ to them. However, it wouldn’t be the first time someone decided it wasn’t worth their time to bother going to court to get a judge to sign off on an order in a case like this.
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    I genuinely don’t think he has a chance of obtaining custody. I don’t think we should even worry about it. It’s not happening. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer him a deal on his current charges, and immunity from prosecution for not reporting the abuse and neglect he witnessed, to...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Unless they are with a police officer and have a court order they can’t force anyone to show them their children. There’s also the argument he lived in the home during the neglect and abuse P and AJ were put through and did nothing to stop it. I’m assuming if he hasn’t already, he’ll be...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    I think he would have eventually since big brother A received very similar neglect and abuse as AJ. Beatings if he didn’t do house work correctly or fast enough, locked in his room for extended periods of time, starved, hit... P was still young enough to be cute and not have developed a big...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    The thing is you and I both let them in our home willingly and truly care about our children. A person actually doesn’t ever have to allow a police officer or caseworker in their home without a warrant and JC knew this and Sr. absolutely knew this as a lawyer and they did not let anyone in their...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    I agree as well. This baby has a chance to live a normal life without having to know anything about this situation until she’s old enough to comprehend it. P is old enough to remember his parents killing his older brother and will need lots of professional support and mental health help. I think...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    I said this to the caseworker, are you sure you have the right person? She shrugged and said we were given your son’s name. I went to the school to pick him up that afternoon and I told his teacher and he said “Yeah a caseworker came and took him out of class! What in the world? Is everything...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    I think they know it’s her fault. However, JC is still her daughter and A’s mother. They will always have some love for her. I would think they will visit her at some point. I had to cut off contact with my own father due to his abusive behavior...I miss him everyday. The logical part of me...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    It’s very possible this was the case when she was given temporary custody but once gma won full custody she was no longer required to. She was given sole physical and legal custody.
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    No, his grandmother received full custody with no rights of any kind for JC. He never had to see his mother again if he didn’t want to.
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    What’s most heartbreaking is at his age, he believed whatever he was told by his parents. He believed he was worthless, incompetent and deserving of what was done to him and judging from what he told the ER “maybe Mommy didn’t mean to hurt me” he believed he caused his mother to hurt him. Poor...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    It really doesn’t make sense though. She lost custody of TWO children based on severe abuse and neglect! You shouldn’t get third chances when it comes to this. I think giving this dysfunctional and violent couple a chance was the mistake. Never should have happened. Any child she had should have...
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    Yes, you can tell he did and they loved each other very much. I’m sure big brother will wrestle with a lifetime of guilt not being able to save his baby brother. The pain caused by JC and Sr is far reaching.
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    Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

    In AJ’s case, I think his older brother most likely would have ended up dead instead of AJ had the grandmother not fought tooth and nail for nearly a year to maintain custody of him. AJ’s death was predictable because there was no one to intercede on his behalf. The abuse his older brother...

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