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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    It is sad - on many levels. MG is the central figure in this story due to her diagnosis of schizophrenia, an illness from which her father suffered from his mid-teens. MG's schizophrenia is unusual because of its early onset. There is no question that MG's diagnosis is real, not an...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    According to the court records (and some newspaper articles now) the attorneys of both defendants are asking for reports to be prepared as though the process was going through juvenile court. These reports are supposed to outline what the defendants would need in terms of education, healthcare...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    From the Wisconsin statute (BBM): I'd say that: (1) is arguably the case given their ages (if they were 16 or 17 that may be different) (2) I have no idea how this could ever be proven true! The reason they're being tried as adults is the nature of the crime. So its always going to...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Looking at the court records, the state has submitted their briefs for a Finding Of Probable Cause for both defendants (i.e. there is sufficient evidence to to support the given charge of attempted 1st degree intentional homicide). Interestingly, the lawyer for MG submitted a brief in support...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    One of the psychiatrists that assessed MG happened to be the same psychiatrist that assessed Jeffrey Dahmer. Regardless of the concurring assessments of psychiatrists for the prosecution and defense, it's unlikely that an insanity defense would be mounted given the extremely low (~2%) success...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Both girls' attorneys AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THE STATE (Szczupakiewicz) are concerned about how the sensational publicity could affect the outcome of a trial: From the court records (BBM):
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Another 20/20 devoted to this story tonight: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2015/02/david-muir-reports-new-details-in-slender-man-murder-case-2020-airs-friday-february-20-10-pm-et-on-abc/
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    I really didn't expect so much information to be released at any point in this case - let alone before the defendants have even entered a plea. Video and audio of the police interviews with the suspects? Pictures of evidence gathered? In my humble opinion it simply isn't true that there...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Some more details of the background from the Probable Cause hearing: http://abc7chicago.com/news/attorney-slender-man-stabbing-suspect-belongs-in-juvenile-court/520354/ Adds a lot of perspective regarding the relationship of the 2 attackers and the victim. Reading this, its REALLY hard to...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    The court records for MG has been updated with "requesting response sent to ADA". Assuming that this means the Americans with Disabilities Act, one assumes that this concerns the protections that MG would have under that act with regard to her schizophrenia. For mental illnesses, one of...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Got me reading a bit - found a couple of links I hadn't seen before regarding this case. I think these terms have been mentioned before, but to reiterate, the articles I was reading mentioned "corrupted play", "shared agency" and "ostention", the latter in regard to legend tripping in...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Agreed. It must have been a very intense friendship that blossomed quickly. They had only known each other for around 3 months when the seeds of the plan were sown. AW had given MG the pet name "Kitty" (because MG has cats, although so does AW), and she used the name at the near-fatal moment...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Yes - that is something positive. I wasn't sure if they'd just let her languish in detention. The question is to what degree her mental health issues affected her judgment. IMO, you could almost take the mental health aspect out of the equation and possibly end up with the same result. I...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Kudos to Ausgirl for an awesome post. You outlined a simple and believable explanation of what happened which I find totally compelling. A couple of things you said reminded me of my own experiences: how rapidly a close friendship can turn into something really unpleasant. And the incredibly...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Ain't that the truth. There were so many opportunities for this awful chain of events to have been stopped. I'm guessing that the reason it was not stopped is going to feature strongly in the outcome of the trial. AW turned 13 on the 10th. Seems unlikely she is going to see freedom...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Hi Ausgirl! I think you may be right. MG has been shown to have serious mental health issues including psychotic episodes. AW has not received the same diagnosis,although her defense is contesting the doctor's report. So... a believable motive for this attack is that AW was vying for PL's...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    The competency reports for AW - unlike those for MG - do not appear to agree. The psychologist for the state did not agree with the assessment of the defense psychologist: the reasons for this are not public record. There will be a contested competency hearing which has been scheduled for 18th...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    AnaTeresa - I think that's exactly it: behavior at that age IS "normally" anything between a tad eccentric to worryingly bizarre... so it probably isn't surprising that what in hindsight will be seen as red flags went unnoticed. Seems like there must be an educational opportunity here. We have...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    According to the court records, it looks like MG is actually being treated at Winnebago Mental Health. The court entry following the judges decision to commit her for treatment (2 months ago to the day) had her returned to West Bend Secure Detention where she and AW had been held since the...
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    GUILTY WI - 12-Year-Old Girls Stab Friend 19 Times for Slenderman, Waukesha, 31 May 2014 #2

    Thanks ttcRider! For some reason, even though the victim survived (thank God), this story really got under my skin and I'm not sure why that is. My immediate thought was "how on earth could this have happened?" and nothing that's come to light since the attack has really answered that...

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