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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #2

    Is the phone they found the same model, color and GB as one of the boy's phone? I'd be surprised if they had a case on it based on the lack of other safety gear but maybe they were more concerned about their phone and put it in a case. Most waterproof cases are only waterproof for a short...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #2

    ^^^ I think many of those would get put up for sale. I'm not sure how giving free gear away makes one more responsible. It is up to the responsible kid and parents to make sure the boat is equipped with everything needed. If you're not capable of doing that, should you really be out in the...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    At the beginning of the video it looks like the camera is pointing north up the coastline then pans towards the east. Also the newscaster says clouds moved in off the ocean. My point is, the conditions in the video don't really match the reports of the other boats coming in as they were going...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    Wait a minute. I thought the condition were really bad as they were going out. Boats were coming in etc. A guy on a boat heading in was surprised the kids were going out. That video makes the conditions look pretty good. Not much wind, actually looks glassy. Even as the storm came in in...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    I'll respect your opinion and not argue the point with you other than to say as a fisherman, and all the fishermen I know, with literally years of our lives spent underwater and having so many encounters with different types of sharks, including really large Tigers, we've lost count, my...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    Then you would probably drown from being panicked long before a shark bit you. Yeah, people get killed by sharks but do the math for how many people are in the water vs shark deaths. I had a friend that spent the night drifting in the ocean after the boat that was following him while diving...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    I just haven't seen that many fairly new engines with repainted engine covers. I had a 100hp commercial Evinude slide off my boat and hit the driveway and crack. Ever since then I put the covers on the ground or floor of boat when working on the engine. Obviously if someone knows if the cover...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    That article lists the missing engine cover as newly painted cover (Yamaha silver grey). So it probably was a used engine and might have had work done on the cover. They are fiberglass and can crack if dropped or backing the boat into something while on a trailer. Since I was saying they latch...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    In the 100HP range, the 4 strokes are about 50 lbs heavier than the 2 stroke which is one of the things I don't like about them especially on an open transom boat. I'm not sure if you're speaking about people in general or about people posting on this thread, but I have a sense there are more...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    I'm not so sure the gas would leak out with the boat capsized. IF the boat is recovered, IF the gas didn't leak out, IF they topped off tank, IF there's quite a bit gas still in the tank then MAYBE you could determine the gallons per hour, guess at the average speed, plot a course between...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    At this point in time, I'm not sure if getting a body back will be a good thing, the ocean would not have been kind to it. It might be better to remember them as the kids in those pictures and for that spark of life that drew them to the ocean. They died on an adventure of their making in the...
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    FL FL - Austin Stephanos & Perry Cohen, both 14, Jupiter, 24 July 2015 - #1

    I would think there's some sort of floatation foam in at least parts of the hull but someone who knows these particular boats would need to comment. I'm surprised the boat wasn't uprighted fairly quickly to see how much fuel was left to get an idea how long it ran. Maybe the CG felt that info...

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