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  1. Hippie Heart

    Podcast No. 1 -- Published 22 March 2016

    I feel like this was just a compilation of all the news reports and what we already knew. I didn't catch any new info in podcast #1 and #2 and I don't believe in #3 either. Anyone else glean new info? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    why was a grown man spending the night? I can see young guys maybe in their early 20s without kids or without living with their parents maybe drinking late at night and a friend crashing on the couch. But this was a family setting with extended family and a baby and these guys aren't that young...
  3. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    There was another article that quoted her saying he was drinking. So confusing. But the chair he slept in when he "stayed overnight" like a slumber party?! I'm speechless. I'm trying to follow the rules and don't know if it's ok to comment more than that. But I'm pretty sure you all catch my...
  4. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    I don't think he thought that far ahead. I think he saw an opportunity and had no impulse control so he seized it and acted on his fantasies, that's just my guess. Like someone else said, it might've just been the perfect storm. :-( ETA: then again there's the bleach issue. Was it...
  5. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    His poor family must be freaking out wondering about all the times he might've had access to nieces, cousins, etc. I really hope he didn't do anything to anyone else. It's scary that this *could've* been the first time and it was so so horrible. How long does someone think and fantasize about...
  6. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    I agree! Alcohol causes you to lose your inhibitions so you're more likely to speak the truth, say what's on your mind, or do something you didn't have the guts to do sober. I think inthedetails might be on to something about the fondling thing. It doesn't seem logical that he would've gone...
  7. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #3

    Along with the posts above about his history, I wonder if he has a history of psychological issues or if he has ever killed a small animal. I think that usually occurs with serial killers, not rapes per se, but the brutality of this crime makes me wonder. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    One of the brothers said LESS than a year and another poster found information online that shows he was either in jail or in some type of program for approximately half that time. And as I've stated repeatedly above, even if you've "known" someone a year, you may have only had several 15...
  9. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I've been thinking about the negligence issue over and over in my head. Let's say that there were no red flags. No reason to be suspicious or look sideways at an acquaintance who says Coochie Coochie coo to the baby and holds her and rocks her. Fine. It's a HUGE leap between someone saying hi...
  10. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    No, we don't. But my comment was in the context of responding to comments that there was no way this could've been prevented therefore the family has no role in this. I'm sure they don't feel that way. I'm sure they are devastated that they let this happen. Yes, I said let. I doubt KP would've...
  11. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I just want to thank several of you -not naming names but you know who you are- for so eloquently and effectively making the same point I was trying to make regarding the situation being preventable. I was ready to take a break from this last night so my post wasn't quite as succinct as some of...
  12. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I feel horrible for these people, I wouldn't wish this situation on my worst enemy. I cannot IMAGINE their grief. But unless these people are monsters, how could they not say to themselves My God!! If only we hadn't passed out drunk! Of COURSE they are not behavioral analyst level security...
  13. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    There is no way to protect against a person like this?! He was a guest in their house and they fell asleep drunk and let him hang out when he was an "acquaintance". That is very VERY different than a man breaking in and taking Elizabeth Smart. Same thing with Adam Walsh. The difference between...
  14. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    This is from the interview with AA and JA. Sorry I can't figure out how to bold on my phone. "I fell asleep once cause I was a little hung over and I was tired and I had just a little much over my limit and I went to bed, passed out. I got woken up because my step dad ended up screwing up our...
  15. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    *Snipped for brevity* It was me who asked. Thank you. This was interesting albeit sad to read. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Lol!! I'm sorry I couldn't resist quoting you. Totally agree. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I think a lot is getting Lost in translation. I don't think anyone is saying a person who has one or two drinks should not hold a child. Maybe some are, but I don't feel that way. I think it's in the context of him being a virtual stranger. I don't understand your comments comparing posts here...
  18. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Got it, thank you. I don't even know what to think anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Yes to all of this. You know somebody less than a year and know they like to get drunk and watch deviant *advertiser censored* and you have them over late on a weeknight to drink whiskey and never think maybe you should walk them to the front door and lock up after them? Or at least take the baby to bed with you...
  20. Hippie Heart

    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Do we know for sure the rocking event is the first time she saw him drinking and/or drunk while at her house? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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