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  1. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Ha very good theory. I got in trouble about 10,000 pages ago for bringing up something similar. I went with possible mobile meth lab issue and cover up. I too keep an open mind in regards to what actually happened to Deorr, but I find my mind very closed off to any idea that doesn't involve...
  2. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    If you make it through all the posts and get caught up you'll probably go insane. I lost 5 IQ points myself and I participated in about 1/2 the threads. My feelings have never changed, the parents share the guilt of whatever befell Deorr. As others have stated only joint responsibility would...
  3. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Yes no problem on my end. I understand others have different feelings about who's involved or not. I don't dispute the parents looked tired I just feel the other stuff I pointed out is the more important takeaway from their interviews. As I stated in one of my posts we are late in this game...
  4. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    "And now all this time later I still believe his exhaustion was genuine". Meh these things write themselves. Wasn't personally coming for you FYI but just wanted to address some of what you said. I prefer not to quote the apologist who was right above you in the thread...
  5. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    As an example here's how almost any normal person would treat a live interview when their kid is lost/abducted: Oh my God we want to find our son. He likes transformers, Bob The Builder, Hot Wheels, and Wrestling. He has a freckle on his foot, and a little strawberry mark on his back. He'll...
  6. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Meh. We're going on 2.5 years so I'm sure most people who have followed closely are ensconced in their opinions. I will address the comments about "saying or behaving" as expected. I totally get it that some people weird out under stress. Inappropriate laughing, catatonic stares, self...
  7. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Can't say I saw this video but I'm not a big believer in unexplained phenomenon type of stuff. I would say that the couple of interviews the parents gave were less than convincing in my opinion. Major red flags always fly for me personally when parents of missing children go on and on about...
  8. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Thanks neesaki, your transcribing is appreciated. Sadly like many cases in our modern times it seems like the law knows what happened but they are also aware of what it "might' take to get a conviction. I am all for innocent people not being sent to jail, but on the other hand it's not terribly...
  9. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    First and foremost God bless NCMEC. They help for free and do the best they can. Now that being said I agree the picture doesn't look like I would imagine a fictional living little Deorr would look. The parents of course have final say on if the age progression is released. I did not allow...
  10. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Why thank you. It would be a blast if we could have a meet and greet, too bad it'd be a logistics nightmare. I certainly don't think you're weird, if you had said your on my list of people who's skin I'd like to wear that might be a little awkward.
  11. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Lets play a new game! I just re-watched (first 8 mins) of the tortuous first interview with Vernal and Jessica. Did you know that Vernal talks non-stop (and nonsensically) for 4:19 minutes before he asks a shellshocked Nate "what questions did you guys have"? Do any of you find that strange...
  12. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    No I don't think it's important because I already know. When a rep mutes their mic the caller can't hear any audio (let me place you on a silent hold mam) but the recording equipment continues to record all sound. The only way to stop the recording from picking up audio is to fully turn off...
  13. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Ok since this is the second time someone has asked, not in my experience. I have heard of that in years gone my experience begins in 2008 and I never witnessed that happening. I doubt this will help in the quest for "the truth" but at Cablevision where I worked all the calls also recorded the...
  14. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    And per the time stamp that we have been discussing it was sent 2 minutes prior to the call. You seem to be very interested in any small shadow, perceived or manufactured so as to cast doubt, I say that with all due respect of course counsel. You have subjected this court (board) to numerous...
  15. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Right? It is amazing how much time we have devoted recently to alibi building type of discussion. I prefer spending my time on this thread waiving a pitchfork and yelling kill it with fire. If someone, anyone has some actually reasonable doubt to cast I'm all ears but I'm done trying to...
  16. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Well at least it seems "we" all came to basically the same conclusion for once. Thanks for the info about the time servers ZooSleuth. I had always thought they were within seconds of each other, didn't know they could vary more. Perhaps it's the area I live in but all of my stuff seems like...
  17. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    I certainly don't want to argue with you ZooSleuth you're one of the good ones! My only contention is anything hooked to a network is getting the same time. Take your cell and stand next to your cable box and the time is synced perfectly, ditto for your laptop. They are all getting...
  18. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    Really? To what end do are you going through these machinations? Why would the clock on anyone's cell phone be 2 minutes fast? With your love of telecom trivia, I imagine you'd know phones get "network" time. What that means to you and I (and Trina's phone) is that your phone is always...
  19. The Apparition

    ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #30

    You are making assumptions and I'm sure you are familiar with what happens when you make assumptions? I believe no independent witness sightings is only a piece of the puzzle. I believe those silly LE people actually believed the parents for some period of time. How long who knows, as I...

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