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  1. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    I can't stop thinking about that. I keep wondering why one person didn't come to his/her senses and think, "What am I doing??? This needs to stop!"
  2. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Is this all? Will there be more? There are others in the group. Doesn't mean they participated in this, though.
  3. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Looks like Cora's daughter was telling the truth on the whole shebang.
  4. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    OK, IMO, that source is exaggerating. "The source said Cullum grew his beard longer in an attempt to cover up the scratches after previously keeping it well-trimmed." He probably did have wounds on his face, but to say he grew out his beard to hide the scratches is weird because his beard is...
  5. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. In no way do I condone TA and the rest of them killing two women. Not at all - but for right now, IMO, her original intent was to protect them from a drug addicted father and the situation TA's lawyer revealed. So TA lets this concern for the kids'...
  6. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Mom CT telling her daughter to clean out the truck forced her daughter to be a participant. IMO, Mrs CT was not some sweet little woman coerced into misdeeds by evil TA. There's some deep-seated darkness there. The couple of CT and CT scare me as much or more than TA and TC. (The suspect...
  7. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Do those arrested for this crime have access to the Internet to read what we're posting? We know others closely connected to the case have the ability to read it, and even make an account here - but just wondering if the ones in jail also have that ability.
  8. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    What if one of the people named in the AA lived directly across the road from Callum? So close that it could muddle up the digital evidence?
  9. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    As @charmingbetsy posted earlier today- "The TA affidavit I saw said the burners were purchased Feb. 13 from Walmart and the stun guns were purchased March 23. The affidavit is really vague as to when the burners were turned on -- it says "prior to March 30."
  10. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    That's how I see them. Cora looks angry and defiant. Tifany looks exhausted but ready to face the music.
  11. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    People keep saying how wealthy these four people are because they own millions of dollars worth of land. They may be land poor, though. IOW, just because they have millions of dollars worth of land, that doesn't necessarily mean they have much spare cash at all - especially because it appears...
  12. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Thank you so much! Yes, that's the interview. I only listened to a small part and I wanted to hear the whole interview. It's interesting - in more ways than one.
  13. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    I recently saw or listened to an interview with Tifany's lawyer she used for her attempts at custody with the kids. I can't find it now. Anyone know where I can find it again?
  14. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    That's exactly what I'm thinking - blunt force trauma, then asphyxiation. smh The evil is overwhelming. I still can't get over Cora telling her 16 year old daughter to go clean up the vehicle used during the murders. Earlier, people kept speculating that Tifany had some sort of power over the...
  15. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    I wonder if Cora, Cole, Tad, and Tiffany were standing up there before the judge yesterday wondering where their fifth wheel went? Or do they know where he went? Or have an idea about it?
  16. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    IMO, those three burner phones were to be distributed as- One phone for Cora and Cole to share. One phone for Tad and Tifany to share. One phone for that guy who was named in the AA <modsnip - complaining/misunderstanding moderation on the thread> The five stun guns were to be distributed as-...
  17. Gae

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Ok, that's where the kidnapping charges are coming from then? They didn't die at the car. They were severely injured and were taken someplace else to die. This is so sad I can't stand it. Their deaths weren't quick.

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