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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    Ah, I think you mentioned that before.I knew your images had all of the grid layout to account for the different perspectives, but couldn't remember how you accounted for camera position. Thanks for the reminder!
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    bwt42, I am not sure when you laid out your proof. I didn't join until about thread 20 and admittedly didn't start back at the beginning. Do you mind stating your reasoning for thinking this again? Or pointing me to a thread number if you happen to know it?
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    They did. If you are not doing anything but eyeballing a picture, the object is taller in reality than they appear in a picture if the camera is above the subject. So, just off appearances, SP should be taller than you first think. You can replicate this easily with your cellphone by taking a...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    Bcoin. I agree with the 1.5 -2" on those type of boots. There just aren't boots that look like that at a 0" sole. I would say .75 would be the very minimum the cushioned heel would give. So even at your max of 2", you are looking at what should be a 1.25 inch variance from their low estimate to...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    Their 5" gap is what makes me curious about their numbers. That is a big range for the technology they have coupled with access to the exact space with the cameras still mounted in their same positions. They know exactly how tall SP is in the costume. You wouldn't look at barefoot, because SP...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    IMO, part of the costume was just to disguise themselves from the cameras, but I do agree that there was a reason why they specifically went the route of impersonating LE. I am not sure I buy that it was just to hide the fact they were a motorcycle guy or martial arts guy though. If that were...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    His right heel (which is the leg his weight is on) is only a few inches from her left heel.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    I am bad at judging things like this, but in this photo they are both probably in shoes with similar heel heights and I would "guess" that BB looks to be maybe 9 or 10 inches taller than MB??
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    Okay, we haven't had any new information and we can only discuss those in the SW. Given that, the 2 people most speculated to be SP are BB and CT. I am going to quickly run through my own thoughts about their possible involvement. Feel free to and add any additional reasons why you think either...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    I wouldn't say I think LE is pretending, I just don't think they are doing a stellar job with their comments and statements to the public. I personally take your comment that police have admitted they are running out of leads and are frustrated with a grain of salt. The same dept apparently told...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    I agree. Neither of these things seem odd to me in the least bit.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    My initial guess is the campers that arrived early are normally busy looking on their phones and aren't even aware of MB unloading. There has been some back and forth on if she would have been setting up under the awning or inside. If they normally worked out inside on rain days, they likely...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    From a medical perspective, I have no idea what would cause the gait. I do find it very unusual though. It isn't the gait so much as that each foot comes down so differently. On the long MPD video you can see it starting around 1:07 and again around 1:42. When the left foot lifts off the ground...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #35

    I see the opposite of a dance background. If we are talking about ballet, ballerinas have some of the best posture you will ever see, even long after they have quit dancing. What I notice about the gait is the angle of each foot differs. They are often at a 90 degree angle to each other. The...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

    It is definitely close, but I still believe SP was there for MB and knew the available window. I picture it more like: 4:20 MB arrives 4:21 SP gives initial blow. 4:22 Sp delivers head\chest woulds 4:23 heads to kitchen 4:25 back in car 4:26 removes helmet (i don't think they necessarily needed...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

    Do we know SWFA came forward to tell MPD about the video? It would seem odd to me if MPD didn't request that video on 4\18. Having a place so close with obvious cameras, it was a big misstep on their part if they hadn't viewed every bit of the SWFA footage that very first day.
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

    I hadn't read this article before. Interesting to hear that some of BB's trips to the MPD were on his own, not at their request. FYI, not interesting like I think it means anything one way or the other, just that I always assumed they called him in. Brandon Bevers, Missy's husband, who was in...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Scout, how are you seeing the SN being used? I don't see that the SN being used in a missing weapons report would be dependent on LE having the actual gun in their possession. I just assumed they meant criminals take serial numbers and re-use them on stolen weapons or they lie on insurance forms...
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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

    Did they state the firearm was unaccounted for? If so, I didn't realize that and it rules out my theory the gun was MB's they found in her vehicle. You asked why they would worry about the serial number of a gun they had in possession being used, and I would say for the same reason they would...

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