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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    To make an obvious point that might be productive / I was in the NY area when Son of Sam was killing young couples and remember how elusive he was despite his frailty. Ultimately he ended up being caught because he got a parking ticket near one of the murders. 1) As this disappearance drags...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    More accurately, you can say "~100% they arrested and convicted a pretty strange fellow, 95% they caught the killer". I don't want to start discussions that will get my posts deleted but I would say at least a 2 or 3% chance the same killer.
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    I'm not going to try to figure out who WC is, maybe the hog farmer?, but if that is accurate then it would make sense to look for freshly turned earth within a mile of there and excavate all the mud pits where the pigs wallow. If the last ping from her phone and other device were in that...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    There are enough similarities in those two cases that it would be negligent not to have at least one person trying to research the possibility that they were the same killer / abductor. On a map they are roughly equidistant from Chicago in opposite directions. I don't want to cause this...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    If she did not usually buy the groceries in that house, and she was newly alone in the house, she might have been inclined to go to a grocery or convenience store if there was one close. That would be a much more 'normal' place for a problem to arise than simply jogging.
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #28

    There is a lot of discussion of electronic devices, but the obvious question, when and where was the last electronic ping off a tower I don't see mentioned. Most people that age keep their devices on 24 7 so it was probably turned off by another person against her wishes. The first data police...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #27

    Some things that seem underdiscussed. There is one video of her drama coach saying she liked performing, theater, speech, etc. That combined with the fact that she was a psychology major and very attractive probably led to some problems at some point. Are there many people who knew her as an...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #24

    Hopefully this post will not get deleted, as my last one was. I'll try to articulate the points I made in the deleted post in such a way that it does not offend anybody. 1) In cases like this that go unsolved for a period of time it seems reasonable to consider the possibility that the person...
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #23

    Has there been any discussion of Maria Ohl's comments regarding a previous case in that area?
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    Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #12

    One obvious point about this case if she was abducted from the house. 1) If two males normally lived at the house there would have been signs of that around the property. 2) Normally an abductor who goes after somebody like that would avoid confronting a more powerful person. 3) So the...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    That was inappropriate of me to criticize that comment in that way, but it is generally accepted now that characterizing criminality by things like physical attributes, race, etc is not constructive nor wise. Criminality should be seperated from any factors which are identified and might...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    A few last points then I hope I drop this. http://nytimes.com/2009/08/18/science/18dna.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/08/fabricating_dna.html The police faked the dna. 1) Somebody says on tv the jury would need 30 minutes to convict. But what evidence would they use? There...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    The one thing that seems kind of strange. When people read the account police give of surveilling bittrolff, are there really some people who cannot tell that the police are lying? When I read that dramatic account, and the interview with Leser, etc, I wonder if there are really people who...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    It seems like even among hookers, the victims in these cases are selected for the fact they won't be missed. Unidentified male victims probably have more to do with the proximity to New Jersey than to lisk. Anyway, I think I have it figured out. Here are some links for anybody with too much...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    That's actually an interesting question in a roundabout way. A lot is not known about this case yet, and one of the most interesting things is the dna that was used as a sample to supposedly tie Bittrolff to the girls who were killed. So going a little earlier than the beer bottles, it seems...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    I'm sorry to be rude, not trying to offend. I've gone through some of the early pages, searched a bit more on Google, and here is what I find. It looks like somebody is trying to attach Bittrolff to the "wayward girls' home" theme of Dr Hackett, perhaps hoping people will confuse the one with...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    I'm glad you're done discussing it, I'll make one final point. I am not defaulting to any alternate theory, I'm trying to look at the evidence and use my brain, rather than trust somebody else's brain. I don't have an agenda. If a group of police officers is corrupt then why would it be an...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    I'm sure there is some button that lets you ignore users. Please use it. If I could figure out the button I would since all you seem to be interested in doing is supporting the police theories rather than asking that they be proven first. Is there some evidence against Bittrolff aside from the...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Sorry, did not mean to 'state' that the child's father was lisk. Meant rather to repeat an important point I read elsewhere, that the child, and the circumstances, specifically distancing the child from the mother, might indicate some connection biologically or some other connection between the...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    It's nice to live in a place where there is some honest uberauthority which will guard your interests. If you are trusting the fbi in that regard you probably have not been following the news for many years, or you have not been reading with a critical mind. The fbi does not come from 'some...

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