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  1. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #60

    I thought there was just a text to a Julie about being "happy it's over with" ... did I miss another section about meeting a Julie while Alex was in Chile?
  2. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #60

    I believe the documents reference LV found out about the insurance money going to KW around July 18, when she mentions it to Chad, one week after CV died.
  3. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #60

    Did I spy a text message to a "Julie" in that probable cause statement?
  4. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    So IIRC, the argument between Lori and Charles prior to Alex shooting Charles was instigated by Lori taking Charles's phone. I vaguely remember something about Charles having some type of incriminating (maybe a better descriptor would be unflattering/off-the-rails) recording of Lori on his phone...
  5. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    My feeling has been that Lori has always been of a sane mind (perhaps with some personality or mental disorder(s), but with a hold on rationality). She used these cult beliefs as useful cover to play out her dark, self-possessed agenda. She used cult beliefs to her advantage among those she...
  6. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #50

    Was that stretching at the conclusion or was Larry silently pumping fists in air?
  7. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    Agree with all of this! You've summarized quite a few threads of thought I had as well, but which I couldn't fully tie together and articulate.
  8. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    Right. And the only time he showed emotion (that I noticed, admittedly I was in and out) was when he laughed at the tricky name spelling comment *eye roll* ETA: Oh, and when he raised eyebrows at MG when she commented on how often she saw him at Lori's apartment in Rexburg that weekend in Sept.
  9. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    I apologize for my ignorant question, especially if it has already been covered - but how does Lori's prelim work next week? Will the same witnesses (or near same) be called on again to provide the same testimony (or near same) over again? Will transcripts from these hearings be used instead? It...
  10. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    As others have mentioned, I was not expecting MG and Lori to go in on each other using LDS scripture, rap battle style. That was ... something. And then Lori bit back with venom when MG called out her adulterous behavior with Chad - something about MG knowing all about getting involved with...
  11. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    More technical difficulties playing recording - judge calls a short recess.
  12. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    Ah, ok. Couldn't remember having heard the breast cancer detail. Thanks!
  13. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    MG says Lori told her she'd told Kay that she had breast cancer and that was why she couldn't care for JJ anymore (of course, we know she never had that conversation with Kay). Had we heard this detail before?
  14. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    My thinking is that she never legally changed her name from Vallow. Would she still technically be "Mrs. Daybell" if she never legally changed her name? That was my thinking on why the court continues to call her Ms. Vallow during her appearances, although she asks to be called Mrs. Daybell. (Of...
  15. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    When the LEO mentions (paraphrase) "Chad Daybell... isn't that ... didn't his wife recently die?" heh.. and they already knew Chad and Lori were married.
  16. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    Very Casey Anthony-like the way she breezily lies and responds calmly when police say they are going to check her story with MG.
  17. Lionsanddandelions

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

    On bodycam audio, Lori refers to Alex as her "protector" and says another brother is "trained to kill her" (?? did I hear that right?)

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