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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    I think we will all be surprised when the truth finally comes out.
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    Totally agree with you. Lots of inconsistencies re Sat morning. In one of the media articles it was implied wvg was there at daybreak but he said 10:30am. Also my understanding from posts was that wvg would be gone the whole weekend and vet tech would do all.meds so why was wvg there on sat am...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    I have kids that age and I don't necessarily agree that I would assume something was up as in call the police immediately that Saturday morning. My assumption would be a) she slept over at a friends house and left lights and tv on b) she went to buy breakfast c) her phone is in her purse d) her...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    Stanly, I am curious as to what you mean by "plans changed." I don't recall any plans changing. It was my understanding that brother was doing morning meds and vet tech doing afternoon ones and that seemed to be the pattern on both friday and saturday. Also was "her" car spotted on fri night or...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    The latest facebook and twitter posts all imply that she was last "seen" in "Atlanta" on 8/19. There has also been more focus on Saturday morning as in "Again if any of Jenna's friends or friends of friends have any information as to who may have been in contact with her that Saturday morning"...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    One of the problems in both of these cases are the many jurisdictions around Atlanta. There are about 6 counties and numerous cities each with their own police forces. In Jenna's case, Dekalb county, Fulton county and City of Atlanta all need to be involved. So this is clearly a case for the GBI...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    The post also mentions that her car was last seen on camera on the west side of Atlanta. However it does not state when it was last seen. That would be interesting to know since defoor place is on the west side of atlanta so it might give a timeline as to when the car was left there. One also...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    Does anyone else think the term Saturday morning implies later than the wee hours as in 9am or later. And I assume that additional cell ping locations would be those of possible suspects since they already have her pings. I wish they would provide us with the ping information and possible...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    That is my thinking and I sincerely hope we are correct. It is interesting how the father and neighbor each dropped in for single post and are now gone. There is nothing new on the official fb page and no word from Subie. No any longer. No flyers in the area The parents and brother...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    The phone ping at 9am has been my point all along which is why I think LE knows exactly what happened but just cannot prove it.
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    The way I read this is that the friend was probably planning to visit on Saturday following their conversation on Friday night. It is about a 2 hour drive from Atlanta. Since she has kids my guess is that she did not leave in the middle of the night nor at the crack of dawn. I think this is...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    That is very odd. Normally these things don't close until the goal is met. I am not totally sure what the goal was but I think $15k (it closed at 9k). Am wondering if this is a sign of something important because they obviously still have expenses with PIs, psychics, dogs etc.
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    I have thought the same thing for awhile. Without the brother's information, we have absolutely no information. It would be interesting to see a timeline of facts that we know from sources other than the family. Even the media's information came straight from the family. It would be wonderful...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    It seems to me that the family and LE are not interested in the public's help - no searches, no flyers, no media, very few posts. On the latest FB post someone asked about the phones and the reply was "the police are working on it". Yet Subie told us over a month ago that they have had the...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #4

    This has always bothered me. I very much doubt a LE agency would mistake someone's identity. Would love to know how the family got the initial information that she was found - phone call, email, answering machine and if by phone, whose - house phone, father's cell, brother's cell etc. Surely...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #3

    I thought about the trafficking theory for awhile but eventually dismissed it as a cause for her disappearance. There are some indications to believe she may have been involved in trafficking - odd apartment situation, extra phone, her autism issues but I also felt like we were led into this...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #3

    The recording apparently states her plans on Fri night. The witness said they saw her in her mother's car with a male on Friday night. The question I guess is if this male is identified on the recording and if there is any way to prove he came home with her on the Friday night or not. We know...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #3

    The police may well have evidence from the phone pings and the car. The problem is that they need to be able to tie a perpetrator to it. In order to get the perpetrators dna, or fingerprints or phone pings they would need a court order and proving the connection to a judge might be tricky. They...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #3

    To answer your questions. "Accidental" perhaps meaning unintentional. Perhaps an argument that went awry involving the very heavy frame hence the cracked glass and the need to get rid of the tapestry (DNA) and wipe down the glass. Staging the runaway - packing suitcase and placing it with the...
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    GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #3

    I am on the "accidental death" "staged runaway" theory. But there are so many unanswered questions that would explain so much.

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