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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Ahem...gentlemen do not answer, let alone open, the front door dressed in their underwear, especially to young attractive females.
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    The door was unlocked. She could not have gotten in otherwise. <modsnip: personalizing>
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    How do we know he was getting ready for bed? How do we know there were no ashtrays? Many here are inventing their own "facts" and that has been one reason why there is no clearness to this situation and so much misinformation.
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    I would ask posters to refrain from calling Amber "the killer." She is only charged with manslaughter. It is as offensive as if I were to call Botham "the doper." (Which I would never do)
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    There is only one logical reason she pulled the trigger: self-defense. At trial, we will find out if that reason was warranted. For any other motive to be imputed, she would have had to have known who she was shooting at. And even the Lawyer says they didn't know each other.
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    Found Deceased AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 *Arrest* #26

    Where are those who wagged their fingers at Sergio and muttered "tsk tsk"? Now you are extending "heart-felt" condolences to La Familia Celis?
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Amber's lawyers are smarter. They're keeping quiet.
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Amber's apartment is not to be touched. It's not a crime scene.
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Jennie … I agree totally with you. I always thank a police officer when I see him or her for the job they do keeping us all safe. I wonder how many times the critics here have called on LE in their lives. It seems a bit hypocritical. More than anything, I'd like to know what transpired in...
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Good questions Tina. I like how you think. Here's how I see it. She was exhausted after her shift of serving warrants to keep our streets safe. She made the mistake of going to the wrong location (which most of us have done in our lifetimes multiple times, be it a wrong street, wrong...
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    It should be treated no differently than an egregious hunting accident. Manslaughter at worst. The punishment - that's for the courts to decide. Lex talionis? No. The Handsome Sailor Hath Spoken.
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Well, Tina, I believe them both, because they are not inconsistent. Both of them were surprised, obviously. I'm trying to get the larger audience to view this from the perspective of Amber, who thought there was an intruder in her apartment. The reality is not so important as the PERCEPTION...
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    The marijuana MAY BE significant in many ways, like why he did not engage verbally with AG (which MAY have prevented this tragedy). Or why he forgot (?) to secure his door. Reports indicate the pot was out in the open. Was he startled by the sudden appearance of a police officer when the pot...
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    I don't think it's victim blaming, they are merely being thorough and reporting the results of their search of the crime scene. If they withhold any of those results, then they will be accused of deceit. And in fact, that marijuana may go a long way in explaining how and why this incident...
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    I'm a free thinker and salt hero. A real man-o-war's man. I call 'em like I see um. There is a gross negligence involved, granted, and her LE career is over. But this thread has turned into an emotional barbecue, many posters here cannot post without heat
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    Amber's story has always been consistent. It's the ham-fisted reporters like Eagar on twitter and the so-called witnesses who can't get their stories straight
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    TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

    <modsnipped labeling opinions> On the one hand, they say Amber was careless and not observant, and then on the other hand, they said she planned the whole thing and planted evidence. <modsnipped unnecessary comment>

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