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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #66

    What is the letter? Is it confirmed? I haven't seen it in any discovery documents so far or the parents mention it in interviews. I may have missed it though.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #66

    I really doubt she had that much say, much less direction, over the newspaper shots. I'm not saying it was a great idea for her to do the interview but I'm pretty sure they have professionals that set that up to look serious and somber.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Perhaps anger that they are there, "in the way", stopping the cheating spouse from getting their addictive like fix from the shiny new affair partner? Anger that they are reminding them of all their obligations that won't go away even if they do get a divorce? With Chris it seems like he may...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Yikes if this is a confirmed typo I feel like it needs to be pinned in bold somewhere (maybe it is, it's hard to keep up!) . I have seen all kinda of theories and bad blood towards NK taking that search date as fact.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Did Ronnie (or Chris?) ever suggest she was on drugs? I missed that but I'm not saying it's not in the docs. I don't think her caffeine use was any kind of issue, but Chris's maybe if he was using double patches and already unstable?
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    I've seen comments on youtube hoping NK kills herself too. :( The whole thing is so tragic, I know people are shocked and react to things differently but I don't feel better by thinking of retribution. I have no problem at all about him spending the rest of his life in jail and I would be...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Is there a new collection of all these texts and things, or is it just as the media releases it? Also wow that Shanann's mom even tried to talk him out of that interview! This guy.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    I'm saying the discovery reference (a list of statements from Chris on how gee he didn't know where his family is) is not one people would take at its word on anything else?
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Ok that page is a list of things Chris Watts initially told the police, when he was still saying how he didn't know where anyone was, they were working on things, and it's mostly pretty positive stuff. (And once again I am not saying that even IF she was spending more than she made or not...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Can you show me the discovery page or pages? There was a lot in there and I thought it was just a statement we heard from Watts or NK? (And I don't take them at their word on anything)
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    Sorry I didn't mean you were being paranoid. I meant I've seen people jumping to conclusions that there is some big Watts conspiracy about some posts.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    It doesn't matter. And I can't speak for everyone but the only time I feel like bringing up or disputing how much she actually made with Thrive is in response to other people posting things about how much she made or she made more than him. I just think there is so much opinion stated as fact...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    I don't even see how we can discuss their finances at all without being allowed to ask how much she actually made through that company. It seems like people can say Shanann made tons of money through this company but if anyone questions that, that's what gets flagged? (Mind you I am NOT saying...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

    It seems to me like there is a lot of paranoia. Maybe there is good reason because I haven't been consistently following these boards since day 1 but geeze. I brought up something from the discovery documents I hadn't seen discussed and got accused of being family myself. (I'm so not lol but...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

    It's really strange to me. Not just the releases that embarrassed the mistress, but seeing the clothes Shanann died and was buried in feels so weird and like a creepy voyeuristic thing that shouldn't even be out there. I don't know if family has any say in it either. And they can't be...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

    He did at least do laundry some of the time (it's in videos and in the documents) Now I'm not at all saying that's a bad thing or that she did nothing. But it seems like he was an active parent picking them up from school, doing all those sorts of things (until he went murderous pyscho that is)
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

    I don't think they owned the Lexus in full though, she just got a monthly credit for car payments from her thrive sales. But he could have thought it could just be abandoned no problem because there were a lot of holes in his plan.
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

    I think it's possible he just found the idea of a trial mortifying, since he seemed to react more strongly to the idea of people thinking badly of him than he did to his whole family being dead. Also, I don't know if he just kind of passively went along with whatever his lawyers suggested at...
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    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

    And as others said, I feel like the obviousness of the crime points away from co-conspirators. I don't see how he or anyone would have thought he wouldn't get caught. But it's easier for me to imagine he's just that socially inept or desperate that he didn't think he would be a suspect, than...

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