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    TX - Madeline Molina Pantoja, 21, murdered, Midland, 10 May 2023 * arrest*

    Darn, this is the outcome we were worried about. Poor Madeline.
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    TX - Madeline Molina Pantoja, 21, murdered, Midland, 10 May 2023 * arrest*

    I know many of us suspect the ex-bf may be involved, but afaik he hasn't been officially named. Are there any other possible leads? For instance, do we know where Madeline works or other people she hangs out with? I'm praying this beautiful girl is still alive.
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 21

    I agree, I think by "manner" of death he just meant the specific kind and/or degree of knife injuries inflicted on the victims were different. It could also be that the victims were all killed the same way, but additional injuries were inflicted on one of the girls (most likely Kaylee, IMO)...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 17

    At the very least, it lowers the chances that just one person successfully carried out the murders. It would be hard enough to kill two people in the same bed with a knife even once, let alone doing it twice. Unless the killer were a very large man OR there were multiple killers. JMO.
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 17

    No, I recall there was discussion specifically about how we did not yet know if Kaylee and Maddie were together in the same bed. I agree it's not very surprising that they were in the same bed, but it rules out the idea of the killer first killing one girl, then deliberately moving to the next...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 7

    I also tend to think the downstairs couple were killed first. He may have wanted to eliminate the strongest opponent (E) first while the element of surprise was ensured. Also, assuming his primary targets were the girls upstairs, by dealing with E and X first, he can now focus on the remaining...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 6

    Kaylee's final Instagram post (below) was on Nov. 12, the day before her death, and it pictures her and her roommates together at their off-campus house. If someone were watching her social media, they could have figured out her location that day. https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck43bViLzdH
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 6

    My speculation is that the scene was so horrific and shocking to the surviving roommates that, for a few seconds after finding the bodies, their minds simply couldn't process what they were seeing. Our minds naturally fill in gaps in our present knowledge based on past experiences, and in that...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 6

    How would they determine who the target was before having a suspect? Many people are suggesting K as the likely target. If so, it's possible that K's body would show signs of having the most severe knife injuries, consistent with the perp directing his sick "attention" on her. If all victims...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 6

    Something that jumped out at me from the presser is that when LE was first listing the individuals who had been cleared, he specifically did not mention the call recipient. It was only in response to being asked that he gave the quoted response. Seems if the recipient were truly cleared, LE...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 5

    Yes, but so far as I've seen, police only say that the 911 call "came from a phone belonging to one of the two surviving roommates." Does anyone know, has it been confirmed whether or not one of the surviving roommates made the call, or someone else did?
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Died in Apparent Homicide - Moscow #2

    This article says that "two other roommates [were] home at time of killings but declined to call 911, police say." Also, "[Police Chief] Fry did not say who called 911, despite two people being at the home when the killing took place and when officers responded." This seems to imply that the...
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    Found Deceased TX - Marisela Botello, 23, visiting Dallas from Seattle, 5 Oct 2020 *arrest*

    Ugh, yes, I also get major creepy vibes from LA/LD. And CB is no better, what with his neck tattoos. So awful that poor Marisela's final moments were with these monsters. In terms of motive, I'm still trying to understand the relationship between the three suspects. If CB and LD were boyfriend...
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    Found Deceased MD - Tara Payne, 26, Baltimore, 23 March 2021

    I agree, it's likely LE has surveillance footage of Savannah's final moments -- or at least, the moment when she fell into the water. Still, it's very unclear what happened after she left the bar, or how this young woman became so severely impaired. I've seen several statements online that...
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    GUILTY NV - Esmeralda Gonzalez, 24, found deceased, Las Vegas, 31 May 2019 *Arrests*

    There's a Facebook page dedicated to finding Esmeralda with some new posts in the last few days. Find Esmeralda Gonzalez I'm surprised there's not more news about her going missing. Her Instagram (@esmeralda_merlot) has more than 300,000 followers! I guess the story just hasn't been picked up...
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    Found Safe CA - Alora Benitez, 15, Torrance, 17 April 2019 *Arrest*

    That's a good point. Even if Alora didn't witness the murder, after being on the run with them for a week now, she will almost certainly have overheard them discussing what happened and/or where they plan to go in Mexico. Moreover, once she's back in the U.S., I assume she would be questioned...
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    Found Safe CA - Alora Benitez, 15, Torrance, 17 April 2019 *Arrest*

    Agreed. There was also the false alarm Amber Alert in Nevada which wasted a few days. Any sense of what LE's plan is going forward? The signs seem to point toward the suspects already being in Mexico, and as far as I know, no one has heard from or seen the missing girl in a week. What's next?
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    Found Safe CA - Alora Benitez, 15, Torrance, 17 April 2019 *Arrest*

    Damn. This all must feel like a crazy bad dream to the poor father. Also, it looks like the dad and family released a few more pictures of Alora to the press. The CBS journalist who covered the vigil tweeted them here: Jeff Nguyen on Twitter "Vigil for Alora Benitez who’s been missing since...
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    TX TX - Prisma Denisse Peralta Reyes, 26, did not pick up her child, Mesquite, 17 Apr 2019

    That's because the Daily Mail for some reason posted ancient photos from her out-of-date Facebook profile: Prisma Peralta Many of the pictures the DM used are from 2014. Someone posted her current Facebook profile at the start of this thread: https://www.facebook.com/denisse.peralta.908 The...
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    Found Safe CA - Alora Benitez, 15, Torrance, 17 April 2019 *Arrest*

    Yeah, I would assume the mother or the man are holding on to all the cell phones. I wonder why they took Alora with them? I trust, and hope, that the mom wouldn't purposely do anything to harm her daughter. I can't say the same for the man, though -- we don't know their relationship, and...

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