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    GUILTY WI - Apple River multiple stabbing; one teen dead, 4 other people hurt; 52 year old man arrested, July 2022

    What kind of world do you live in when you think it's OK to carry a knife and use it in self defence? Are you aware of the epidemic of murders from stabbings in the UK right now? It is off the scale. What is the purpose of carrying a knife in public?
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    Apparently the case is not happening next week and they are back on the 25th March
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I presume it's being done to show that they aren't as committed to their children as they claim they are. Her grandiose claims they she'd do anything for her children and never hurt them don't reflect her actions, ie missing visitations and then leaving a 4 month gap.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    No evidence that they did much wrong? I'd say there's no evidence that they did anything right, that's why an innocent baby girl died in their sole care.
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    GUILTY UK - Brianna Ghey, 16, murdered in Culcheth Linear Park, Feb 2023 *2 teenagers charged*

    They weren't. The judge mentioned he has similar previous convictions.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    3 days last week and 4 this week. Does the Old Bailey actually ever do a full week? It seems to be taking forever.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    Wasn't CM warned previously by SS about falling asleep with a newborn baby? I'm sure I've read that somewhere. I don't think either of them had the first idea about being a parent but just kept pumping out kids for some bizarre self entitled reason.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    The whole "kids were taken away from us because I fell out of a window" angle is definitely worth more scrutinizing. Is she saying she had injuries akin to a DV victim but played them off as a result of her falling out of a window? Previous neighbours have stated they heard heated arguments...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #5

    I'm struggling to believe if Victoria's body had not been found, that CM and MG would ever have divulged where she was and what happened.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #5

    If you're referring to the basket of food in the petrol station it's actually about 4 or 5 cans of Coke and not soup. It seems like a basket of junk food/snacks.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #5

    I'm surprised and slightly annoyed that they are allowed to hug each other in court after all they put that baby through. IMO they should be separated and sat nowhere near each other.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    She's not there again. It's just MG today, as reported by The Argus
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Well she wasn't in court Thursday and Friday and didn't even bother to watch the proceedings on a video link which was offered to her. Such strange behaviour.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    The pair had an emergency interview after arrested but wouldn't answer questions regarding the location of the baby, instead Gordon demanded food and then after receiving some asked for sweets! Unbelievable?!? Shows where their priorities lay.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Is there an online source available to follow this case in real time? I presume it's starting today?
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    January 2024?!? Jeez, that's a long wait. Why such a huge gap between charges and the court case?
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    I can hear "Hand me back my wallet" "How much did you use/lose £200 £300"
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Sounds like he calls her "Toots" after she says he has his wallet.
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    Recovered/Located UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon & Newborn, left a broken down car on motorway, Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023

    The main reason is they are sleeping rough with a newborn baby in the middle of winter.
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    Recovered/Located UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon & Newborn, left a broken down car on motorway, Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023

    Surely wearing two carrier bags on your shoes would bring unwanted attention from passers by which is the last thing they want. Bizarre is an understatement.

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