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hello all long time no see. ive just turned off the oxygen program after georges "attorney" started spewing his nonsense. i am so dissapointed in this program and the sanitization of this crime by the media. even beyond the wagners- the first year after these murders every single person involved...

this is a great post. you could write a really good book. frustrating to me this did not get the national empathy and support this crime demanded. lots of half *advertiser censored* "hatfields and mccoy" bs. one of the worst murders in human history as it combined mass killing with cowardly sleeping ambush with...

im glad tony was able to show the world who his brother and family really was. between the "growhouse" slander combined with the ridiculous abuse talk it seems no one could tell the world who the real chris rhoden was. mostly because the family adhered to prosecutions wish for the gag order...

the whole extended rhoden/gilley/manley family are a beacon of immense grace and courage . their steadfast discipline and cooperation with bci was incredible. even AFTER danas brother was falsley arrested they still stood strong. leonard just broke my heart in every interview but even with all...

lots of discussion on fw but what about g2?? seems likely billy would confide in his dad after the fact or ask for advice before. even tho he died before the arrests he was very alive during the murders. there have always been rumors concerning young g2 path to owning such a large operation...

the prisoners dilemma.. or in this case the wagner cult family dilemma

so happy for the family what a great day. burn in hell g4 your life is over just like the 8 you helped extinguish. there will never be justice but punishment is a good start. bci and canepa wilson even junk hard fought impressive dedication to bring these evil people down. long live chris rhoden...

the wagners were not positive they would all be coming home when they set off on their evil murder spree. crsr fr kr all known to fight and win to defend their family. there must have been 20 guns in crsr safe including a mac10. they were armed to the teeth and the wagners knew it. staying home...

im sure canepa will do the closing but i really hope not. i dont like the defense tactics, but there were good points. i feel canepa put too much effort into proving the "crime family" angle and did not concentrate enough on the actual murder conspiracy. they are 2 different things. now before...

yea its been mentioned alot of time in pre trial especially when the motions for removing death penalty due to "not shooting" started. its always weird to me that the jury may not be exposed to alot of what is said in pre trial. g4 attorneys have had a maleable response in real time to...

see this is where the term reasonable doubt comes from. anyone can make up random excuses about why an action which contributed toward a conspiracy "isnt as it seems". the standard isnt beyond a shadow of a doubt its reasonable doubt. youve lised multiple purchases g4 made which were later used...

purchase records of murder kit, recovered sks, night scope, credit card for cell phone jammer(which was confirmed as purchase by anti fraud in real time. the prosecutor did a bad job but the cops did a great one. the bar to convict george of murder conspiracy(which domino effects all other...

a better way of phrasing my problem with the aw deal- her testimony had verry little impact because she and jake both say she was not at the scene. with the ridiculous denial details g4 is using with his lawyers, this gives aw testimony almost zero net advantage for prosecution. furthermore...

it is so frustrating following this case. like you just want to grab the tv and shake canepa thru it. cant even stand to watch sometimes and prefer to read the tweets. bci did a phenomenal job on this ccase in fact i think it may be one of the best murder investigations ive ever read about...

really the question becomes is this ok? are we as a society ok with absolutely requiring evidence outside of common sense. if a murder is commited with no innocent witnesses, no dna is left behind, and no video evidence exists. is this murder now un-convictable without a confession? because this...

g4 thinks he can get off because he is only tangentially involved in the custody and had no public issues with any of the rhodens. even tho he may have been the wagner closest to the younger victims. none of them that we know of had EVER done ANYTHING to deserve the death that g4 actively...

altho i hate the defense attorneys and wagners im looking forward to vance and skids testimony. seems vance and chris had a good relationship going back years. i think this witness will backfire on the defense and end up being a character witness for crsr. even as they attempt to smear his...

i mean yes i think thats what they would tell you thei rthinking was. but that is an unrealistic bar to set for any conspiracy and does not reflect any of the case law decions. under once a co defendant has pled guilty and admitted that a. a conspiract existed. b. for a defendant to be included...

this might be my biggeest issue with angelas plea bargain. she did not even feign remorse. if anything she reaffirmed her position that the murders were justified. i just can not wrap my head around how it went from "no ones getting a deal they all going to get dp" to letting this evil cow...

hold on. raisin. you dont think george was at the crime scenes and also g4 didnt know jake and billy killed the rhodens til montanna?? is that a bad joke or something?