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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #37

    After watching the body cam I worry that, in BL’s mind, he has the support of the police, almost a validation from them. Who knows how that may have affected his future actions. It’s just so tragic. My late husband was a police officer so I tend to err on the side of supporting LE. But not...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #21

    "The deceased (Leonard Dyck) suffered injuries to his head and body, including bruises and burn marks. Initially, the cause of death was unknown." But if you read further: “On July 23, 2019, an autopsy was conducted on Leonard Dyck. The preliminary findings showed a single gunshot wound was...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #18

    This cases are getting me worried, so out of curiosity I took a quick look and without any effort at all immediately found three studies that say there’s no correlation between violent video games and aggression. Two I ignored, since I’ve never heard of the universities those studies are...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #18

    To me, the differing opinions on the hardware store footage are more interesting than the footage itself. Interpretations of B&K’s body language run the gamut from “hey world look at us, we just murdered people” to “here we are, trying to look casual while shoplifting” to “we’re absolutely...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

    You can find used guns at a gun store for a very reasonable price. You can get a used military style gun, like a Lee Enfield, for under $300, a used SKS for around $400. A brand new semi-automatic .22 for $300, a brand new centre fire, like a 30-06 for $500. Also - in my experience it’s very...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

    Yes, for sure I’ve noticed the studies you’ve posted on here and I appreciate your perspective. And I’m not accusing you of defending these individuals at all. You’re trying to understand them, just as we are all. But remember, theories in psychology change dramatically. When I was studying...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

    That’s a really good point (and a really good plan). Also, us armchair sleuths are vacillating all over the place too. Someone in a thread or two above said that we tend to see this case according to our own world view. Which is a very good point I think, very wise. There seem to be three...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

    Ah, thank you - so witness accounts do say they seem nervous, not terrified. I didn’t miss anything then. We’ve seen the same accounts, I guess we’re just interpreting them differently. Human nature - we interpret events based on our own internal theories, complex creatures that we are.
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

    Which witness accounts indicate that they seemed terrified? I've heard that they seemed nervous, but I'm not familiar with the ones that say they seemed terrified.
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #14

    Sure guns are relatively common with hunters and in redneck communities in Canada. But they’re definitely not so common in urban centres. IMO it’s very unlikely Professor LD would have been carrying a gun. Also, I don’t know many folks who take a gun with them on a camping trip, unless it’s...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #14

    I figured they had a gun, I was thinking a .22 based on the description the road worker gave of the injury he observed (small hole in abdomen area). But two guns? That surprises me, I didn’t expect that. They each had a gun. Wow. I never totally bought into the whole idea that these were...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #14

    I’m a little slow as usual, but on the where did they get a gun from topic: it’s actually really easy to get an unrestricted (rifles and shotguns) gun in Canada. If you’re 18 or older, just take a quick one day course, write an easy multiple choice test, and get your PAL (Possession and...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #13

    For those saying that all Canadians trust our LE - what? I’m not even sure we’re living in the same Canada right now, lol. One thing is true though: Canadians have a love/hate relationship with the RCMP. My late husband was an mountie for 30 years but he rarely introduced himself as such...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #13

    That’s one of the reasons why I find this case so interesting/unsettling: I’m really struggling to understand this upcoming generation. I have no problem with the millennials in my nuclear and extended family, they’ve had their ups and downs of course, but on the whole they’re decent human...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #11

    I just talked to my neighbour, here in south central BC, and he hadn’t heard anything about these murders & this manhunt, it was total news to him. And much to my VERY great surprise, he really wasn’t all that interested (yes, like some of you, I could be a little obsessed lol). It's summer...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #11

    There are just so many young men that go missing in BC, it seems to happen so frequently, that I think I’m becoming desensitized to it. Isn’t this something that’s happening elsewhere?? I just assumed these are separate cases, missing men being such a relatively common occurrence here. I...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #10

    I think practising at survival in Port Alberni with it’s temperate rain forest and west coast marine climate (a very mild climate which would be comparable to Seattle, say) wouldn’t be the best way of preparing them for the far more challenging terrain and weather of Northern Manitoba. It would...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #8

    Well that shoots that theory then. I was thinking it might have been dusk when the Bear Clan saw the suspects, and it’s super easy to see things that aren’t really there at dusk. I can’t even tell you how many times in the woods at dusk I’ve been a little nervous, seen a bear, got all excited...
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    Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #8

    Does anyone know what time the Bear Clan saw the suspects at the dump? Was it dusk maybe? Gloomy at all? Seeing the interview with one of the Bear Clan who allegedly spotted the suspects, his story did seem just a bit muddled - like he wasn’t 100% sure of what he saw maybe? CBC Manitoba on...

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