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Maybe one twin died first, the mum was in shock or didn't know what to do, and then the second twin died later on, for example the next day. It's still very unusual, but it could be the case they didn't die at the same time, rather they were reported dead at the same time.

That's all well and good...if the other parent wants to be involved, is still alive, and engaged without their own mental/physical health or addiction issues, and doesn't have their own agenda for agreeing or disagreeing to something. I'm not saying that's the case with anyone in this case at...

I'm in the UK too! It isn't always, it can be misadventure, and I just wanted to clarify.

No-one said suicide. 'Not suspicious', as the police are treating it, also, unfortunately, (ETA: can) mean misadventure, like getting fatally injured. Not just 'suicide'.

I'm sorry, but a personality disorder like BPD/EUPD (hate that term) which I'm almost certain she's going to be labelled with (maybe alongside other MH problems, but BPD is the most contentious) does not turn someone into a scheming liar who ruins peoples' lives, leading them to almost killing...

People who can't walk aren't 'languishing in their own prison'. I know you mean her in particular, but it does make it sound like being disabled is somehow a prison, or something someone deserves, or means someone is living a lesser life. She needs to go to prison for real, walking or...

On the note of adult children and their parents -- my parents don't know a lot about my addiction problems and whilst they might mention my in-recovery BPD and chronic pain, they would not mention the medication I choose to take for recreation. I don't find it odd that her parents might not...

The fact she was found in the water is a huge clue. I also believe the police know what they're doing as far as witnesses are concerned, including credibility, as well as understanding the timeline and the movement of the phone. It's just not information we're fully told about, as it shouldn't...

Who would be doing that? Why? How?

We don't know, and it's not our right to know IMO.

I really don't think that's what they mean by changing their words.

Like I said -- it's a good idea to cover all bases. When this appeal was released, it was very early on and it's better to appeal for information ten minutes early than ten minutes late. It's not like they asked for footage between 7-9am, that would be more confusing. But ten minutes? It's...

Probably because they already had footage, knew they wouldn't get any footage because of the location, or because they consider the witnesses that saw her in the field enough proof. You have to remember, there wasn't a crime committed and the police thought this from day one. Whilst they had to...

Not really. Even if you're just covering your bases, you want to make sure something didn't happen in the time leading up to the key time so later, when the case is reviewed, you can show you did everything in your power to identify what was going on as soon as you could. It's hard, but we...

Nothing wrong with trying to cover their bases, especially when they didn't know what had happened and some people were going nuts about it for some reason. It's a good idea to ask for potential witnesses and/or footage before it gets erased or people forget. The fact no-one came forward only...

Sorry, I meant aside from mental health, as we don't know what sort of 'health professional' came with the cops. Unfortunately, I know a lot about sectioning and the cops!

I think it's less about cost and more about the gesture.

We do have a thread for him here, though it's not as... lively as Nicola's has been -- https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/uk-peter-baglin-55-last-seen-in-salford-gtr-manchester-around-7-30pm-28-dec-2022-later-sighting-texaco-garage-mossley-common-29-dec.654113/

It must be a very tough line for police between allowing people to do what they want (e.g., go sleep at someone else's house and not call your family) and assuming something bad has happened. People would also complain if the police clumsily broke into every place a phone signal from a person...

Thank you! Exactly what I wanted to know. I've only interacted with the police when they come with a mental health professional, rather than another health professional, hence the curiosity.