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I believe this commentary is contained in sealed documents that was reported on by folks that read the documents before they were sealed. I have given up trying to figure out which documents were available, sealed and then returned to the public. Very confusing. MOO

All excellent questions about the local landowner class in OK imo. Perhaps “disappearing” the innocent is simply how they roll in their pursuit of “local justice”? Seems more like the stories out of Mexico imo than rural America but perhaps times and methods have changed? We shall see as they...

Sadly, NN does not appear to have public LE corroboration for their claim that the two women were shot and the NN article also does not detail its sourcing for the shooting claim either that I can see. Note also that NN (NewsNation) is owned by NBC Affiliate KSN’s parent company Nexstar and...

I do wonder if she snapped off a photo and sent it? That would be a miracle and potentially an investigative game changer! Also wonder if the women made it to 4 Corners and snapped an image of nobody there? VB imo had many years of experience with dealing with WR and TA games and...

Question: Is NN now reporting that the two women were shot by referring to “puddles of blood”? Quote from article: NewsNation previously reported that a small amount of blood was found inside the vehicle, but sources now say that there were also separate puddles of blood outside of the...

I believe it was reported that Colorado State LE was involved and assisting with interviews as was Kansas State LE.

I believe it was reported that Colorado State LE was involved and assisting with interviews as was Kansas State LE.

We've seen this issue in other cases and iirc the hogs eat the bones but don't fully digest them. The reality is that as far as I know its virtually impossible to drain a lagoon and I don't even know if its possible for a fully protected human or even remote operated vehicle to go into a...

There are a bunch of similar livestock operations in the area. If you look on Google you can see the large circular lagoons associated with many of the the livestock operations.

Yes, a hog operation is about 1.5 miles from where the vehicle was found and a map was posted earlier in the thread.

With blackout windows….??????

Good question! Perhaps we will eventually learn more that could explain the crickets in this tragic case. Moo

Some folks still believe 'no body no crime'. I haven't had a chance to research where OK law is on prosecuting murder without a body. States differ somewhat in this regard imo. But, in many states murder has been successfully prosecuted by the State without the bodies of the victims so...

The two you tubers on the ground that were interviewed by News Nation yesterday have imo been amazing to watch and the reason they said they went was because they were worried that nobody was covering the story and they felt the women deserved to be found and answers provided to the families...

I agree that what we have seen is a very odd public response from LE. But, I think we have seen an odd response from the OK Press as well as their coverage has been almost perfunctory with little in the way of direct presence in the Cimarron/Texas County region or investment in research imo...

FWIW I don't believe either party would risk the ire of the Court with ANY change to the Court Order protocols for the custody exchange as there was simply too much at risk imo with the upcoming Court hearing. Four Corners was the mandated meeting spot by the Court and as you say was 'legit'...

Right now News Nation are the only news organization willing to invest to put boots on the ground locally and chase the story and so I have to give them credit for sticking with the story and also promoting it with their other on air personalities. All the other major online and onair news...

Involved in what?

No more info that I can see on this scary event. What is interesting is that the 2 podcasters who were interviewed by News Nation reported that they were also followed by a big black truck with blacked out window and I believe they mentioned this to the reporter from News Nation. MOO

Interesting question imo. Very interesting. Bio father's father divorced bio father mother I guess is the most that can be said now about this topic as News Nation video reported briefly the other day to say that bio dad's parents are divorced. MOO