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    MO - Woman escapes from Excelsior Springs house, says she's been held against her will since September 2022

    Yes it's sad for everyone who is involved with Timothy and his child, just reading everything said on social media scares me for people ending up in this kind of situation.
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    MO - Woman escapes from Excelsior Springs house, says she's been held against her will since September 2022

    I agree they obvioulsy believe he kidnapped her, raped her etc so they found evidence to support their chargers, I certainly hope so. <modsnip> Like I said I can not see this not being a crime but how bad it is I am not sure.
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    MO - Woman escapes from Excelsior Springs house, says she's been held against her will since September 2022

    I hope you're wrong but yes this could be what has happened. It sure adds up to be this way when you take a look at all we have heard. But her saying her friends were there is a little difficult to believe that he had several women there at one time but could be he told her he had them there...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    Yes a lot of people have thought he may have tried to cross the river from Owl Rd. I was wondering about the irrigation canals and if he fell into the river trying to get to Kolt Lane would his body flow on down the river or get stopped because of the irrigation canals. They did drain those...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    I just took a look at a map of Kolt, Owl and the river, do you live in the area? Wondering where the river flows to from there, is there any place the body would have gotten stopped? I know in normal conditions the Platte River runs pretty shallow. I have pretty much counted out he is in the...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    Thing is Chance was seen on security video around 8 pm on Terry Blvd. Owl Rd is a few blocks from there and once on Owl Rd it's approximately 3 miles to Kolt Lane. It didn't rain hard until a little after 9 pm. A person walks about a mile in 15 minutes. So why would Chance take Owl Rd., a...
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    You're correct, when LE calls an ambulance for you, you pay the cost. Hopefully she had insurance, I'm sure she did with her working for Children's Mercy Hospital. They asked her if she wanted to go to the hospital at the scene of her accident and she said no and they say she said she had been...
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    In this article they say they found her keys and cell phone. Seems those items would have been lost before she went to jail. Also the description of where the wreck happened sounded to be right in her own front yard. Sounds like she left jail with no phone or house keys and also sounds like...
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    A recent article says she refused an ambulance. The word printed wasn't refused but think it was a typo.
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    In the article it says she was arrested for leaving the scene of the accident and a DUI. The info says that she said she had been drinking. Also it says she was picked up a little after 10p.m. and in other info it has said they held her for five hours so that would mean they let her out of jail...
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    I read she was jailed in media reports and also a report from Kansas City Missouri Police Dept.
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    Who saw her at 7:30 a.m.? Also it says it was dark when she walked out of the Police Station and it's light here in KCMO at 7:00 a.m. Do they mean 7:00 pm.? Just found more information. She had been in a car crash. doesn't say when but maybe right before the Police picked her up, it's vague...
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    Found Deceased MO - Marina Bischoff, 39, Kansas City, 28 May 2020

    It seems odd to me the Police that picked her up so close to her home didn't take her home, wondering if they asked her if she wanted to go to the hospital and she said no. Sounds like something very bad has happened to her on her walk from the Police Station. Was she intoxicated or using drugs...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    As for the storm and it's arrival. Weather reports show the storm arrived about 8:17 p.m. on July 6th 2019. It started raining quite a bit by 8:30 ish and almost an inch of rain by 9:00 p.m. The storm was out of there a little after 9:.00 p.m. If you go to this pg you can use the slider for the...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    A person that I am talking with about this case doesn't understand this either. She said it's unbelievable he couldn't have had his iphone location pinpointed, Chance's Mom had access to his phone account.
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    I too am considering foul play. They have contacted business's a long the route he may have walked and nobody saw him or has him on camera except the camera shot around 9:00 p.m close to Five Rocks Rd and Owl Rd in Terrytown. Seems it's possible someone picked him up and something criminal...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    The message was received by his Aunt, she has no idea what he was saying. She messaged back but got no reply. The message also had capitals and lower case letters.
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    On FB a drive around the area where Chance was seen and also where is phone pinged was posted. There were areas where when it started pouring he wouldn't have been close to any business's. Someone that lives in Gering Ne said streets were flooded during the storm. I think it's possible he took...
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    NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father)

    From what I've read about hypothermia in warm weather it is possible because it did rain after dark and the temp was lower than during the day. Saw some temp maps for the day he went missing and hot during the day but down in the 50's at night. But I do agree it is now starting to be a theory...

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