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    GUILTY IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #9 *NO JAIL*

    Except he popped his head out the window the minute he walked up to it so we are starting with the base assumption he knew the window was open. And if he knew the window was open, and he held a toddler up to it only loosely holding her with one hand, the end result is going to be that she falls...
  2. J

    GUILTY IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #9 *NO JAIL*

    I agree - it is the most simple explanation for his behavior. Forget "I thought the window was closed" - that's ridiculous. So if he knew the window was WIDE open, since he stuck his head out of it, why would he hold CW by one hand in front of an open window? The only end result was that...
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    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    You would be surprised the line at guest services on sail day is very long - people are making show reservations, issues about dining arrangements, issues about cabins and possible upgrades, it could have been any number of things.
  4. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    The mom lost me completely when she said what purpose is served by prosecuting a misdemeanor offense. To me it would be one thing if SA tripped, or was careless, and accidentally dropped CW. I get that and in that type of fact pattern maybe don't prosecute him. But this is not that fact...
  5. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    When I watch the video, his hand isn't moving forward. He's holding CW in his left hand, and his right hand is holding something (cell phone?) which he swings in front of him right before she fell as if to take a picture. I don't see him reaching forward to the glass when she fell, to me it...
  6. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    This is a FAR cry from the "bear hug" grip he claims he had on CW and "if only a sticker had told him the window was open" nonsense. If I was the family and I saw that video, my lawsuit would be against SA and not the cruise line. CW is poised in front of an OPEN window 11 stories up and...
  7. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    It is hard to tell, the only time I can really see pretty clearly what's going on is when I watch the video on a 12 inch laptop monitor. When I try to watch it full screen on a big monitor it's very blurry. But to me it seemed like he was trying to take a picture. It just really aggravates me...
  8. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    This is the version of the La Copay video I am watching - Video shows heartbreaking moment grandfather lifts tot girl to window aboard cruise ship before she falls 150 feet to her death Click on the video link in the article. I made the video full screen and watched it on a 12-inch laptop...
  9. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I will try to find the version I am watching. Also sometime the video is more clear depending on what device you are watching it on. I will check tonight as it was on my home laptop.
  10. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Are you watching the side angle video or the La Comay video? I saw this on the La Comay video at about the 6:20 mark. If you can find the high definition version of that video it is more clear to see what is in his hand.
  11. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I know I sound like a broken record, but if you look at the video shot from behind, you can see that in the few seconds before CW fell, SA has something in his right hand. I believe it was a cell phone and he was trying to take a picture of her. You see the object/phone in his right hand, then...
  12. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    The window is only NINE inches from the edge of the wood railing. Hence my belief his head was either actually outside the window when he leaned over, or soooo close to the edge there was literally no way he could think there was glass there. He's totally lying - imo.
  13. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    My opinion is RCCL is not going to settle. If they were going to settle, it would have been done before now. From their court filings their position seems quite clear that CW's death is not the fault of the cruise line it's the fault of SA whose actions were unforeseeable. Maybe they will...
  14. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    My understanding of the zoo situation is that was a different set of facts than this case. With the zoo, they had prior knowledge that there were safety concerns with the way the enclosure and barriers were constructed - they even memorialized those concerns in minutes of board meetings. So...
  15. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I thought SA's statement was appalling. It's clear the lawyers helped him write it but I am still having trouble wrapping my head around how the statement begins by saying sorry to the media he has to walk by every day and ignore and he doesn't want to appear rude. What!?? It's so completely...
  16. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I get that she's a lawyer and as such her initial reaction is to blame someone and sue. But - especially after the video came out, it is ridiculous to try to blame the cruise line for what happened. AND, she defended SA and called what he did a "misdemeanor". He killed your child either...
  17. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    His actions could be intentional and still not premeditated. Maybe he wasn't planning on doing what he did until the opportunity arose, but when he saw the window, the way he lifts CW up with one arm (most people imo would crouch down and pick a child that age up with two hands, one on each...
  18. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    This is definitely clear. If you watch SA's interview, he gives the most wishy washy non-answer when asked if he blames the cruise line. He doesn't even actually say "yes", he says something like "if only there had been a warning sign". It's literally embarrassing to watch him try to blame...
  19. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I agree with the poster who compared what SA did to Russian roulette. I think he got a thrill from having CW in danger. Did he think she would actually fall? A few weeks ago I would have said "no".... now I would say "yes". What changed my mind is his behavior in the video holding her, and...
  20. J

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Yes that exactly what she did, even SA admitted that. She wandered over to the windows and was looking out through the lower portion. SA could not reach down to those windows (allegedly) because the glass angles out, and he says that's why he lifted her up. I think his entire narrative was...

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