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  1. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #62

    ... and of course CD hooked up with LV long before her death, slapped her butt, visited her in CV house using fake invitations, and all that, because he knew TD would approve, no need to waste time! If CD's defense is going to try making him look a victim as his kids try to portray, why don't...
  2. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #62

    It seems they believe each other, because they have no reasons not to believe :D I think ES even explicitly stated that. (IMO Of course for such a worldview one has to have a certain frame of reference, but I think it will be against TOS to discuss :rolleyes: )
  3. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #62

    I think it all comes down to personal complexes of the members: humbleness/self-criticism vs ego/power seeking. So for instance, in MG and ES self-criticism is stronger than ego/powerseeking behavior, thus even if very subconsciously willing to see those visions and striving to that (also the...
  4. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #62

    There is an interview with ES on Hidden Crime channel Did not finish it yet, but it's fascinating how the minds of these people are convoluted. He still does not doubt that if the person says he/she "sees" something - then it's a vision, truth, "thin veil", etc. It's easier for him to believe...
  5. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #61

    If I am not mistaken, Julie Rowe lives in Kansas... I might be wrong though ETA: @Onsdag It seems we were meaning the same person and posted at the same time :rolleyes: ETA2: I am quite sure LE is able to narrow down the Kansas IP and already knows who it was
  6. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #61

    SBM I think it is not all about money. It's about HATRED. All these ratings were about self-justification of the desire to destroy and kill. IMO ETA: Also about self-elevation to the point, where other people in their eyes become so much lesser than THEY are, that do not deserve to live. ETA2...
  7. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #61

    The document was written/provided to LE in Dec 2019, around the time the story became viral, and only a month after they got married. Later we see IP at MBP's side during interviews, so she must have convinced him she was "confused" and that's all. She tried to make him one of them, and it...
  8. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #61

    RSBM In LV's messages she says "it's a war" - that's what they perceive is going on around them. It's possible every one of them (especially MBP) is at war still, against full world of zombies who target them. Not sure their eyes can be opened o_O JMO
  9. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #60

    I am 99% sure Tylee wore flip-flops in the video after CV's death. I also find this really strange - to stop at 8am, after much stress (as they said) from the fight, after hearing gunshot, to get flip-flops?.. There should be a reason. Ruined shoes? But I guess facts like these we'll never know
  10. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #59

    Watched an interview with PAP member/founder, who knew MG, CD, LV and all that circle way back before they got together. What can I say - to those who don't believe CD and LV were into that crazy stuff - if you listen to this guy, it seems to me that no more or less sane person could be for a...
  11. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #59

    And why, why was JJ killed exactly the night MG and DW stayed over at LV's house? Wouldn't it be easier to do it when no one was there? Not that LV hoped for an alibi. Any ideas?
  12. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #59

    Can't shake away the same feeling... Not only regarding MM, but also thinking about her influence on others, jury?.. Hopefully, the ending of this story will be different o_O
  13. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #59

    Based on the stories and facts of his past shared by him and others, I believe CD was always seeking cult-like relationships, where he was the "teacher"/"prophet"/"god" and others worshipped him. And due to the fact that he was born and lived in LDS community, he found the best way to achieve it...
  14. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    Zac provides such an invaluable insight from the point of view of an insider! And confirms a lot of what we discussed many many threads before based on the limited information we had at that time (good job we did :rolleyes:) And this video provides answers by professional forensic psychologist...
  15. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    Well, she did outsmart many non-professionals and professionals before... and the history knows other cases too, everyone may be mistaken, no matter how professional IMO I do wholeheartedly agree though with your statement that incompetence is more than mental illness and knowing right from...
  16. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    "Arizona does not have a traditional insanity defense. You can not be found not guilty by reason of insanity. There are however three was you can use a mental health defense in Arizona." Arizona insanity defense
  17. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    Of course not, there are many different mental illnesses. And having mental illness does not automatically equate to being incompetent. One of them psychopathy as an example ETA: Psychopathy is a personality disorder, not mental illness, of course. But they can very well fake mental illnesses...
  18. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    There is evidence she harmed her children since very young age, psychologically (sex scandals with CV's other children and JR, TR's Munchausen syndrome etc) All depended on what she wanted to achieve IMO
  19. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    One can be mentally ill (=psychopath) but competent to stand trial, and faking the incompetency... IMHO
  20. April_Dawn99

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #58

    OT, but all this story with psychological evaluation and incompetency to stand trial really reminds me of a movie with Catherine Zeta-Jones "Side Effects" :rolleyes: Main theme of the movie - can a licensed psychologist be fooled by a manipulative psychopath...

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