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    CA CA - Maria Loida Tice, 60, Heaton Flat Trail, 13 Feb 2021

    I am familiar with this hike and trail as I summited Iron Mountain (solo) via the Heaton Flat Trail in 2015. This is a very grueling and strenuous hike from 2,000 feet elevation to 7,000 feet elevation at the summit. It is known to be the most strenuous single day hike in all of the San Gabriel...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #20

    QUESTIONS: In the body cam video released by the New York Times on YouTube, at 41:56 Brian reaches into the vehicle to grab Gabby's phone. At 41:59, the officer sticks her hand out to grab the phone. Brian avoids this, and proceeds to do something with the phone before handing it to the...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    In my opinion, the phones were likely given back because they are wiretapped at this point.... The above comment is speculation only.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    New speculation/theory: Possibility of 2 youngest getting left in hot car too long? Cal City gets HOT, but the record heat waves that occurred over the summer were a bit before their closing date. Death Valley, only a couple hours drive from Cal City had a couple days that reached 130 degrees in...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Bryan Wang asked the tough questions, great job.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    In the most recent video posted from the California City police Chief, the Chief is asked if there will be any arrests soon. He stated "no comment", but his demeanor was not very compelling. I think we'll be hearing something soon.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Very good point that I have been meaning to state here as well. The EXTREMELY strong emphasis of "GOING TO BE" has always bothered me about that video. Watch the video and he clearly emphasizes "GOING TO BE" two times. They are GOING TO BE (he has no idea what he is going to say after that)...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Has the PI working pro-bono actually solved any major cases before? He seems a little "off" to me.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Later in the quoted video, chief says Cal City is still the lead agency. Makes no sense why they would have not reviewed neighbor's tape.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    This video from MSM is VERY TELLING. The chief admits he has not even seen the neighbor's security camera footage. REALLY? The neighbor confirmed FBI did review the footage and took his DVR for a bit. Therefore, it makes me think FBI is taking lead on the investigation and allowing Cal City...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Home appears boarded up from recent pics. Either by LEO or family... wonder if there will be news soon...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    I share your speculation because it makes the most sense based on what we know. I also speculate there was an accidental dog attack in the day(s), week(s), or month(s) prior in which the circumstances may have resulted in jail time anyhow so the options were weighed and this route was made...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Some reasons for them not to report it include: - Other children could be taken away - Shame from letting the children be alone with the dog I didn't realize how common it is for dog attacks to occur on children until I stumbled across the wikipedia. I too noticed the "Beware of Dog" sign in...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    As I sit here watching a YouTube beats video, the channel name which carries the same name as TW (disclaimer to all: which may not be related to this TW for full disclosure), I listen to the beats as they get thrown down. "Supreme Intelligence" they say... The beats are good.. they memorize me...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Yes, in the full TV interview he says something along the lines of "With the pandemic, we didn't want them to go out here..." or something to that effect.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Assuming a 20% down payment, the AP's home mortgage payment was just under $1,000 per month on the $197,000 home purchase in September. Per the California adoption subsidies shared earlier in this thread, some estimate they are receiving $4,000 per month via their four adoptions. This payment...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Admin, please correct me if wrong, but the author of the West Family blog post just posted a comment reply. Since the author has been vetted by MSM I assume I can link the comment here since it was posted by the same profile as the existing post. It is very telling IMO. For the readers of this...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    IMHO, reading through the lines, the statement does not seem supportive of AP. Rather, the statement wants to explain why extended AP’s family is not currently involved in searches.
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    The statement implies in multiple places that it was put out by the family and NOT the parents. It goes on to indicate that the family is unaware of what happened and desires for the truth to come out. It is interesting to see the lack of defense of the parents in the statement, in my opinion...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    I wish TW would disclose how long he was in the house for before he went back outside and saw no kids. I assume it was not terribly long. If TW and JW are not responsible, the ONLY thing that makes sense is if someone was hiding in the yard waiting for the precise moment to pounce, which is...

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