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A man accused of murdering a mother and her two-year-old daughter could have acted with diminished responsibility, his legal team has claimed. The prosecutor anticipates calling around 14 witnesses for a trial which could last eight days...

I’ve struggled with this too, as well as the timescale and with the whole anonymity issue, whilst they were almost courting publicity. I wondered if the search at the end of last year was prompted by William’s sister remembering something or by FGM writing a letter on her deathbed. Possibly...

It’s certainly confusing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the relationship had broken down due to the stress. If they did have something to with William’s disappearance, it may well be that that the allegations/evidence has led to a deep mistrust between them, in the event one has been unaware of...

No disrespect towards OG’s memory at all, this is a tragic story… reading it like this really gives me straight to TV movie vibes though. It’s all just so bizarre.

Thanks for this, I just watched and came over all emotional. What a beautiful, strong family. I wish them all the best and hope they enjoy the opportunity for a fresh start. No money in the world will be able to make up for what they endured.

Seems he felt himself to be a victim for whatever reason. At which point he should have cut contact and stepped away from the situation. That would have been very easy for him to do, given the presumably secret nature of the relationship and the physical distance between them. But no, he had...

It can happen for a multitude of reasons. Mostly where a parent hasn’t made positive lifestyle changes or engaged fully with services. People can and do change and grow. Sadly, they’re not always willing or capable of doing so in a timeframe that suits a developing child. William was approx...

There’s a quote in that article that jumped out at me: Bonola allegedly casually described to cops how, in a fit of rage, he grabbed a knife and slashed Gaal's throat, stabbing her over and over again across the left side of her body. I wonder if that’s why his left hand is most cut up...

Answered in red alongside. Do you think William’s disappearance could have been premeditated and staged? How do you know they weren’t followed up? Genuine question. If those easily addressed questions weren’t posed at the beginning, then LE made even more of a mess of the initial...

Seems that there were some people they felt comfortable enough with that they blatantly abused Logan in front of them. Not one of them stopping to consider just what horrors they may have, therefore, been inflicting on him behind closed doors.

He seems like a Walter Mitty type. Apparently the family were burgled previously, seems DB was trying to deflect attention elsewhere. Very creepy :eek: but also not surprising

Yeah that’s what I was trying to say, in a round about way, sorry … the sheriff wouldn’t have known if the worker didn’t tell them, basically. It sounds like the youth and Logan’s workers were from different locality offices, too, so no crossover or linking within the database, especially when...

As I said, it tends to be rather more complex. Frustratingly so. But that’s JMO, I’m not an expert on Welsh legislation and I don’t have access to the case files. I’ll certainly be waiting on the outcome from the serious case review though, because again, I am not arguing there should be no...

Of course we can’t forget that, but the legal framework is actually incredibly complex and individual social workers don’t make decisions. They can be powerless to undertake meaningful, valuable work if they don’t have the evidence to warrant statutory intervention. Abusive parents can and do...

His multiple social media accounts scream ‘dodgy’ to me. None of them so far advertise his actual bread and butter job either. Just something I find odd as presumably he was self employed so would have to advertise locally and FB can be a good way to do that. JMO.

Logan’s mother and her partner let him die. I absolutely agree there have been missed opportunities here, but social workers don’t abuse or murder children, that’s on the parents.

Foster parents of teenager, 14, who murdered Logan Mwangi 'lived in fear' and warned social services about the 'monster' after he tortured dog, played 'murder games' and stamped on a little girl - but were told it was 'just banter' The elderly couple have cared for over 80 children over 50...

I think so, possibly even bureaucratic issues like confidentiality with the crossover of Logan’s case and the Youths. We know there were two separate workers for two individual children, it doesn’t make sense that there was no joined up approach or a risk assessment of both cases together. The...

The other factors would have to be known and raised though, I wonder if the courts were aware of the wider picture.

<modsnip - quoted post was removed> LE have confirmed the affair was real, via investigation of Orsolya’s phone, from witness statements. It was an angle they pursued very early on so the evidence must have been very clear. I do have a hunch DB possibly felt more, wanted more than she was...