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  1. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Thanks, but no – I wasn't considering DF and son to be partnering up. Quite the opposite. MOO One of my thoughts (albeit they play out like a made for TV movie) was that DF "came on the scene" as part of an investigation in Clem's (and now Clinton's/Crisara's) business. Her husband having just...
  2. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    About Fedder ... from The Valley Voice (Jan 2019) (have the pdf; can't find the link): This places her arrival at 2015. IIRC, this was just after Clinton's alleged attempt to kill her in the hospital. Coincidental relationship, given Clem's history of real estate development around La Jolla...
  3. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    And DH was married to a high ranking Riverside Sheriff's Department officer? Are we to suspect that KH's share is going to be split 3-ways?
  4. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Thanks for the RMRU link/reminder. I don't know their protocol, but it always bothered me that the search was called off when the detectives showed up. I understand that case evidence can become tainted if not handled properly, but who would do that? The Findme spokesperson was interviewed and...
  5. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    [MOO] The connection is this: they (ie. the kids and/or interested 3rd parties) counted on the newly accessible funds to keep Candlelight moving forward. Were there other venues that could be pursued? Possibly, but I suspect Clinton honestly thought he could keep Dia at bay and relayed that to...
  6. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Thanks for all the additional aka spoiler info. I've not looked at it but will certainly try to make time for it. I'll not dismiss any of it :) It has been a long while since I looked into any details concerning the Candlelight connection, but the gist [MOO with some hazy memories] of it was...
  7. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    I'll MOO this up ... Yes - Secret Service. Financial Crimes investigations (and protection) up to the level of the POTUS IIRC. She becomes "instant friends" with Dia in 2015 - same year as Clinton's alleged attempt to kill her. Later becomes involved in helping her manage the ranch, etc...
  8. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Posted by tvscum Dec 12 (thank you!), but I'm reading this on Dec 13 – and it's dated Dec 14 Is there ANYTHING touching this case that doesn't raise an eyebrow?
  9. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    15 years without seeing her; 20 years since they've been close, yet all the assertions. I am always cynical when folks assert they know someone so much; that they would never do this or that - oh, but the gun surprised her. Dealing with a farm surprised her. Referring to Clinton's alleged...
  10. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    "But wait, how did he see these three people accosting Dia when supposedly he was off mowing the pasture? What evidence could he have had to turn over to prove this story" He said CCTV caught in and he turned it over to LE.
  11. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    The reward is being offered by/via the Trust, IAW the court order which also requires disposal of the properties (proceeds to be split 50% KH / 50% kids less the $300k reward). KH offered a small reward at the beginning, The kids offered a larger one a year later. Proceeds forfeit if they're...
  12. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    If you're referring to pre-disappearance efforts by the kids, then yes, this does make sense ... except for Clinton saying they'd never heard of KH until Dia went missing. Afterwards, when the changes to Dia's Trust (for her properties) were made known, they went after both KH and Fedder to have...
  13. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Welcome . It's quite the mix of stories, essentially (and not at all trying or pretending to speak for the group) falling into the following scenarios (and all this from "memory" ... so I'll just MOO this all): 1. Dia just walked away. Not much to support that, given her ties to the community...
  14. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Thank you – I appreciate the clarification and confirmations. There have been comments made suggesting he was keeping her in essential servitude, or at the very least was playing with her. Are you able to elaborate on her relationship with Harper? Or her work conditions/contract with him and...
  15. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Agreed. It would be of immense value to see the handwriting confirmed. [moo] But to not have it confirmed seems almost in keeping with the nature of this case in that seemingly easily obtainable information is either not sought, or it is withheld (eg. Dia delivering baked goods the assumed day...
  16. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    I understand we have rules concerning "victim shaming". I get that. I do, however, have questions regarding Jodi (and quite honestly about anyone else in similar circumstances), and I am hopeful they will be taken in the spirit it is intended (ie seeking facts; truth; corroboration). The first...
  17. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Thank you! I hadn't reviewed that material in any depth yet. Good to see.
  18. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    I am truly hopeful that this final agreement will include a clause that states any involved party would forfeit their "share" of the proceeds should they be found responsible for Dia's disappearance and/or death.
  19. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    Despite any contrary wishes of the deceased (assuming mental state is not being challenged)?
  20. sleuther007

    CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

    It was in response to your assertion that Dia had everything she could want (from Clem). (And I'll admit to this phrase being a trigger for me, having known a woman who was routinely beaten and handed over to friends for their pleasure when she failed to properly recognize and appreciate all...

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