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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    Didn't she set up some kind of bogus interview after Anna Nicole Smith died? I seem to remember something about that too. Anyway, someone filmed what she was doing and she got busted. Doesn't mean she can't still be a good reporter, we've all messed up at some point and, hopefully, get a...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    The story was told by people from Aruba. The man was not reported to be killed but the boys got in trouble. I'm sorry I do not have a link. Thread #11Post#143 refers to the incident also. It's just one of the stories showing his youthful violence. Killing his dog, another violent episode...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I couldn't find it either, maybe because he was a minor. I did find the post that mentioned beating the dog to death, Joran was supposedly 13. It's on Thread #5 Post #667. Another poster found the information about the man being thrown off a bridge, however, did not find information the man...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I believe I read the police found two coke bottles in the hotel room? One diet and one regular. I have no link I just recall hearing or reading it. I wonder if they were tested for DNA and drugs?
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    Was this a secretly recorded conversation between Deepak and Joran in the car? After Natalie was missing? I guess what I'm wondering is, do you know where this conversation took place?
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    You are correct, we should never come down to the criminals level and relish violence. Universal Law: Do nothing with malice.
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I don't have the number of the post in front of me. I read it on a previous thread. It was when posters were talking about Jorans' violence as a child: killing his dog and throwing a homeless man off a bridge. I'll try to find it for you if someone else doesn't come up with it. I said...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I didn't get the connection with her being on her period either. Blood seemed to really bother Joran, he said he couldn't stay in the room with it. However, it was the blood he had spilled he was talking about. It could be the violence started from sexual rejection though, he'd been turned down...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I am a degreed professional, I have done drug counseling for 40 years. I am not attacking Anita, I do not know her. I have seen parents deny, deny, deny what their children have done and then become so overwhelmed they suddenly just give up. The saying in AA is: Let go and let God. I believe...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I agree, I think many parents defend their children and blame others. When children get into trouble parents blame the "influences" of the other peers or just claim flat out they didn't do it. If you ever watch Judge Judy, you see it in action. Parents sue teachers and schools when their...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    He threw a homeless man off a bridge, he probably killed Natalie H. and now he has killed Stephany. What Anita Van der Sloot said was from the first interview she gave to a Dutch paper. She said he had left Holland so as not to be confined in a mental ward there. She had tried to get him...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I think Joran believes Natalie and Natalie's mother were the cause of all his problems. He blames the victum and anyone holding him responsible. I think he vented his stored up rage on Stephany because she was a female. She probably stood up to him and that was enough to set him off. He is...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    I wish to speak about Joran's mother. I believe she is burnt out. She tries to defend her son but knows he has mental issues and knows darn well he is violent and has murdered at least 3 people. He is her son the family nighmare. She said, "Perhaps it was time to let Joran go". That is...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #17

    referring to Post # 781 by Dolly1 Quote:Excellent and very important post! Did you see my post of a study on improvement in behavior and criminal acts among teens undergoing diet change Yes I did Bobarino and thank you. I definitely believe Joran has been affected by what he ingested...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #16

    My brother started smoking marijuana when he was 17, he smoked it almost every day until he was 32. By then he was very unstable, paranoid and depressed. He'd lost every job because of lack of anger management and had been given an OTH (other then honorable) discharge from the military because...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #14

    When one thinks of the fear Joren placed into these women, I do not worry he is now feeling fear in the prison of Peru. He has earned it all.
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #14

    This morning (15 Jun), The View had something interesting. It seems Joren's first girlfriend has written a diary-type book about their relationship. She includes his love notes and letters to her, to show he was at one time a dear, sensitive, loving person - the letters and notes are very...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #14

    This was in an article by The Daily Beast Quote ....But it is unlikely that Van der Sloot will ever return to Aruba to face justice there–at least not in the near future. The attorney general in Aruba says that now that Van der Sloot has been charged and remanded for murder in Peru, they have...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

    I wonder if all of the hotel video footage has been released to the press? Why put up with Joren saying he'll do this or do that if he gets to talk to Aruban authorities? He is not in the position to be making any deals at all. He needs to be told if he doesn't tell where Natalie Holloway's...
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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

    http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI If you scroll down from the video, you can find out lots about him from his Profile. It says he last accessed this site 'two weeks ago'. I don't know how precise that is, but 2 wks. ago from today is May 31....the day after the...

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