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I do agree with this. As a mother I cannot and will not ever understand how someone can walk away from their children. DV or not, she had her fiance/step brother and her family standing by her to help her in this. She does not strike me as a wallflower. She has no problem telling the media what...

Yes, you are right. But the constant going back and forth on "what is" a DV and "who has worked with" DV's and the "signs that are exhibited by DV" seem a little much IMO. It's all speculation as we have no idea if Crystal even is a DV. That's all I'm saying.

Hey, I don't think anyone hijacked the thread LOL I just feel bad that all the attention is focused on DV / Crystal when we don't even know if it's true or false. :blowkiss:

kidz, I wonder if there were other court actions/documents that we haven't discovered that possibly mention this. I wouldn't be surprised as it appears there is so much annomosity between the two families. I think we can all agree that no matter whether Crystal was abused or not, Ron does/did...

I took that as meaning in the "present" not the past.

The last thing I wanted when I started this thread was for there to be arguing on whether there was abuse or no abuse in regards to Crystal. Specifically, I thought the document was interesting as it pertained to the custody and determination of that and Haleigh's well being. I hope this thread...

When I visited my dad down in Lakeland, FL one summer there was an alligator that crawled under the wire fencing onto his driveway. From that experience I'm not sure that alligators are necessarily deterred by fencing. I do agree however that all means should be taken to protect the kids. I just...

I didn't realize this Cubby. I guess it makes sense. I just thought that sad that he had to determine paternity as if he didn't know for sure or something. I guess it's required by law then if you're not married?

ITA with you...

That's a lot of missed child support payments (didn't I hear over $4K in the media?), especially if her payments are only $300 p/mo. What gets me is I'm a mom to three and I don't understand her not wanting to see or be with her children much. In the docs it states something to this effect...

As if it couldn't get worse the more I read: ... ...

Okay, so it's not true that Crystal wasn't properly notified about the custody hearing as I heard previously.

The fact that Ron had to file to determine paternity is interesting to me (although it's sad).

I found an interesting document online while doing a search. It contained things I haven't ever read or heard before and I thought it may be useful to read and understand the family and background. Here is a link to the PDF file in html format Here is a link to the PDF Lots to discuss here...

Thanks for answering all of my questions HM! Very much appreciated :)

LOL no biggie, I just couldn't resist... :) Here's my three previous posts that were at the end of the #2 thread:

Last question, I promise. On the latest chart I see the "part of find" located in the 3rd house, which is the opposite of "part of death" on the wheel. Does this mean she will be found (or partially found) opposite of when she died? To me this means half way around the wheel, or 6 months as in...

Also, with Haleigh being in the 12th house, and water predominantly in the 10th house, what significance or correlation does this possibly have? I believe it was discussed previously there was a strong possibility that she is in water.... If that were the case wouldn't water be in the 12th...

Soulscape, Thanks for the latest chart on the dog search. Very interesting stuff. Forgive me if this has been asked and I have missed it, but is it possible to see in the chart you have already created when the most likely date will be of finding the body? I remember in the Caylee thread (was...

Since my posts seem to have miraculously disappeared and the post title has changed and the post seems to have grown by pages mysteriously (did a mod merge a few posts???) I am going to post again: Why the heck are LE searching a dumpster that dogs hit on WITHOUT protective clothing (sterile)...