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Perhaps the Stines deliberately didn't go over that morning, in agreement with the Rs, to avoid the possibility of their son slipping up and saying something in front of the police?

I just had a thought about the size 12 panties, that hasn't occurred to me before. What if that part of the staging, along with the blanket, were actually added after the police arrived? We know that John disappeared for a while during the morning. Perhaps he'd realised they weren't going to be...

Could be, as JonBenet displayed signs of being wiped down, along with the possible use of water. Although Coroner Meyer makes no reference to suggest the presence of the industrial chemicals used in the standard douching products. So douching is certainly a scenario to consider. . Thanks...

I've just been catching up with my reading here, and haven't read this entire thread, so forgive me if this has already been brought up. There's lots of discussion regarding the flashlight being in the kitchen. One of the scenarios I've wondered about is whether Burke used the flashlight to get...

That has never been mentioned anywhere I have read - where did you get this information from, please?

I suspect, as someone earlier said, that the suitcase was going to be used to remove JBR's body. The reference in the note to 'bring an adequately sized attache' or similar, was supposed to cover JR if anyone saw him leaving the house with case/body - he was using the case to get the money (in...

Ah thanks. My memory must be going in my old age.

Of course! I just hadn't heard anyone say with authority that it wasn't. I wish I could remember what the shortened version of the special said, so I could tell you what is extra!!

I'm finally on the last episode of the CBS special, which is available here (Australia) on a streaming service. There's six episodes of 42 minutes each, so I'm pretty sure it's everything. I really can't remember what was in the shortened version, but there's quite a bit of chasing around trying...

Ah yes, I'd forgotten that snippet. I'm not sure that simply using the underwear to wipe her would totally remove all visual evidence of blood, but maybe. It must then be staging after staging - she was dressed in the too big undies and presumably the long johns, then they were at least pulled...

True, it could be transfer. Unlucky to just be transferred into that particular area and nowhere else on her body though. If it is from BR, why weren't similar fibres found elsewhere?

The problem that I see with assuming that Burke did the redressing, is that fibres from the shirt that John was wearing that night were found in JB's genital region. So, to me, either he was involved in the redressing, or he was involved in doing something to JB before she died. :(

I like your thought process! My one issue would be: from memory, the ligature marks were in a straight line around her neck, not pulled up at the front or back as they would be if she had been dragged by the cord. Does anyone recall?

The pyjama bottoms were never found, from memory. So yes, she probably was wearing them. And they got shoved, along with other missing items, into the golf bag that John absolutely needed to have collected for him.

Hi UKGuy - I agree - I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear. Earlier in the thread, some people were suggesting that the garrote could have been made earlier, in a premeditated plan. I can't see that fits with the facts. As far as repurposing - there was speculation it could have already been...

I am so far behind on this thread, I'll never get to read it all! So I apologise if this has already been covered. Re the garrote - wasn't JB's hair found to be tied into the knot? if so, it wasn't from something else and repurposed, nor was it made earlier. If her hair was caught in the knot...

They didn't see through Casey Anthony :(

Try again! It's showing on Channel 9 in Melbourne tonight. I'd guess it may be on up there as well.

It's showing on Channel 9 in Melbourne tonight. I'd guess it may be on up there as well.

For Australian members - it's being aired tonight (19/9) on channel 9 - in Melbourne anyway. Being promoted as a two part documentary.