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    GUILTY - Tammy Moorer - trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 *Appeals denied* #11

    I think this case is a good example of how your personal conduct can influence the narrative that others build around you. In particular: imagine if, rather than Tammy getting on the stand and behaving shamefully and disrespectfully towards Ms. Livesay, she had been polite and respectful. "No...
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    Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer? #2

    Ok, WTF is going on in this case? SM really made a public statement implying that he paid Heather for sex? That is a VERY interesting change of his story and just makes him look even more fishy! Are they absolutely nuts? You can't make this stuff up, people. No wonder this TV show was made -...
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    Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer? #2

    The M's are so obsessed with Disney that they manufactured a story so that a judge would allow them to travel to Disney world with ankle monitors. You have to wonder when such an obsession becomes pathological. Do they have an uncontrollable need for Disney that must be satiated periodically? Or...
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    CA CA - Christine Walters, 23, Arcata, 14 Nov 2008

    Wow. This one is very tragic. My condolences to Christine's family, especially because it seems local LE has not been diligent in their efforts to find Christine. :( The tea ceremony I think is the key here. I read Brian44's post with responses from Tito, the shaman, about the events...
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    Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer #1

    "Seeking employment", AKA going to Walt Disney World with money scammed from the government (and mooched off their parents) while the parents of the young woman they (probably) murdered toil wondering if they will ever know what happened to their daughter... This is definitely not good news...
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    EVIDENCE - Pro and Con #2

    I respectfully disagree with the last sentence. To the contrary IMO there are many more red flags that the M's are guilty. Of course, at this point, our opinions on the guilt of the M's are all speculation and gut feelings/intuition rather than strictly fact-based... we don't know what either...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #16

    PO was arrested and charged for rape some years back. It was discussed on here IIRC. The articles about it are gone which is weird, but there's still traces about it on the internet: "Phillip R. Oberer, 24, of San Mateo Road was charged yesterday with first-degree rape, a felony, and pleaded...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #16

    All this talk of a page with insider info about the case got me in a sleuthing mood. I wish I had seen it! Who knows if any of it was true, but interesting nonetheless. Have any of you guys dug through AL's photobucket? There are photos of AL, Britt and JO together dating back to 2007...
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    EVIDENCE - Pro and Con

    -snipped by me for brevity- What I keep coming back to in this case is motive. Before DNA evidence ever existed in all its glory, motive was more of a concern in proving who committed a crime. Who had reason to kill Heather? Obviously, TM and SM have very, very strong motive. That's something...
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    Moorers' Bond Hearing - #2

    What a turn this case took today. Jeepers! Yesterday, I felt confident that the Moorers would be convicted of Heather's murder. Now I'm not so sure. And what's up with $100k bail...? That seems rather low. Questions that have come to mind: What happened to the tank top found in the M's home...
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    The Phone Calls in the early morning of Dec.18, 2013 (both PayPhone & cells)

    Judging by the Caisons' comments in that article.... seems like TM's braggart and "playing the victim" nature is genetic. MOO
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    MO - Michael Brown's stepfather being investigated for inciting riot

    In our justice system, crimes committed in the heat of the moment are punished less severely than those that are premeditated. That's the line between, say, first or second degree murder and voluntary manslaughter. Emotions impair the ability to make rational decisions even in the best of people.
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    Any Elisa Updates At All?

    This case interests me because it reminds me of an old friend, who went from "seemingly normal" to "psychotic" in the relatively short time that I was close friends with her. Looking at Elisa's tumblr and internet presence, she reminds me a lot of my friend. Especially after watching the...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #16

    ^^ Totally agreed with a lot of the discussion going on here.. I know this question has been asked before, but why DID JG/Britt's bf get so concerned so early on? Ordinarily if someone doesn't reply to a text for an hour or two, I would just think that they were busy, not threaten to call...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #15

    I think this was brought up before... but perhaps Brittanee met someone shady at a club, he saw her walking, offered her a ride, and then took her down to the Georgetown area against her will? I just cant see PB and crew being able to pull off an abduction... they're a bunch of stupid, greedy...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #7

    There has been a lot of speculation over which times are right and which are not. I remember awhile back that some people posted saying that the 7:55 and 8:13 entry/exit times are pretty impossible to have happened, which I can agree with. Apparently, those were the times on the hotel...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #7

    Bumping for Britt. Come on, with this new lead, something good has to happen! :)
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #6

    That's an interesting way to look at it, Doc. I have thought about JG's reasons for running to DD a lot myself. There are so many unanswered questions in this case. I truly hope that Britt comes home safe some day. :(
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #6

    I think LE knows A LOT more than they are saying, judging from the cryptic "intimate details" comment and the meeting of the minds a few weeks back. They probably just don't have enough to nail their suspect to the wall yet. I'd bet anything that when this case is solved, it'll go back to the...
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    Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #6

    If the pic is real, I think it was probably placed there, fairly recently too. Rochestergirl brings up an interesting question - is that hotel the one she said she was headed to? Maybe (again, if the pic is real) it's a clue to the MBPD about how Britt was taken or where she went.

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