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    GUILTY IA - Evelyn Miller, 5, Charles City, 1 July 2005

    I was absolutely shocked that you had to have a vehicle involved to be eligible for an Amber alert. Evelyn is lovely. I hope they find her. Have you e-mailed this to Nancy Grace's show? I bet she would put it on. ETA: Never mind. I e-mailed myself. Hopefully, there is a chance it could help...
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    GUILTY UT - Brian Mitchell & Wanda Barzee for kidnapping, Salt Lake City, 5 June 2002

    I think Elizabeth Smart was deprogrammed awfully quickly for someone who had Stockholm Syndrome. It is my understanding that people who have truly suffered from this have taken months of therapy to recover. If I recall correctly, Elizabeth, according to her father, was back to her old self...
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    GUILTY MA - Christa Worthington, 45, murdered in her Truro home, 6 Jan 2002

    There will be a show about this on Court TV tonight. It is called Under Investigation and it will air at 9pm CT/ 10pm ET.
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    Was Darin Routier involved in away with the murder or cover up of their boys?

    With all the mentions of Drake representing a new start, I was reminded of something. My memory is fuzzy on this, but didn't someone testify that a few days or weeks before the murders, she found baby Drake crying becuse Darlie had him wrapped head to toe in blankets.He was supposedly...
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    GUILTY UT - Brian Mitchell & Wanda Barzee for kidnapping, Salt Lake City, 5 June 2002

    Normally I would understand a father not wanting his daughter to relive her kidnapping experience in court. However, since Mr. Ed didn't mind broadcasting her ordeal in a TV movie (in which Elizabeth herself is rumored to have been disappointed that she wasn't asked to play herself) and a...
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    Was Darin Routier involved in away with the murder or cover up of their boys?

    I think you've come close to hitting the nail on the head regarding motive, Goody. I've always thought that the most likely motive for Darlie was attention. Bravo! There are many types of attention she could have gotten from this. Perhaps Darlie (and maybe Darin) thought that the previously...
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    GUILTY UT - Brian Mitchell & Wanda Barzee for kidnapping, Salt Lake City, 5 June 2002

    Thanks for the link. I read on another board that the defense for Brian David Mitchell has subpoenaed Elizabeth's school records and medical records. It is apparent that they are trying to prepare a "Liz ran away" defense. Ed Smart and the DA are on their hind legs trying to prevent this, but...
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    GUILTY UT - Brian Mitchell & Wanda Barzee for kidnapping, Salt Lake City, 5 June 2002

    ITA with you lisa and candlelight. Just word to everything you said. Everyone I know thinks so, too. The Smarts are sure a fishy bunch. My newsfriends and I predicted from the arrest that this is exactly what would happen: The Smarts will let things settle down, then arrange for nutty...
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    Darlie Kee

    IIRC, the limb hair on the sock belonged to Darin. I think I read that in one of the latest motions on the Darlie website, but I'm not sure. Also, I vaguely remember the people who cracked the DNA code somewhere saying that they were horrified that it was being used in law enforcement. IIRC...
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    Poll: Did Darlie Routier murder her children?

    I started looking at this case disregarding both Darlie and Darin's statements, which I do not believe to be reliable, and I began looking at the crime scene as the first outsiders on the scene did. I feel that the reliable information begins where the outsiders arrived to give their accounts. I...
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    Was Darin Routier involved in away with the murder or cover up of their boys?

    I think Darlie and Darin had a type of codependent, toxic relationship, similar to alcoholic-enabler relationships. I'm no psychologist, though, so take that for what it's worth. I do think it's possible that they both planned and/or participated in the crime, and I wonder if the baby was an...
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    It simply makes no sense...

    I think what you're referring to is that apparently, some of the first words Darin said to the cops were "Did you see my wife's big breasts?" or something like that. I think Darin and Darlie had a kind of toxic, codependent relationship, similar to that of alcoholic-enabler. That helps...
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    Darlie Kee

    I just thought of something. Maybe Darin is not involved in the killing of the boys, but he knows Darlie did it and helped cover it up. Perhaps the reason that he helped cover for her and supports her is because Darlie has knowledge of other (unrelated or not), criminal activities Darin has...
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    Darlie Kee

    I've read a couple of books about this case, but I never paid much attention to this one because I'm a "Darlie Did It" kind of girl. Now I'm curious. What in this book caused people to turn to the prosecutor's side? If there's too much to post, could you just point me in the right direction...
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    It simply makes no sense...

    I agree that the fact that the boys killer is being punished is justice. The thing is, there are so many pro-Darlie websites, TV specials, etc. out in the media. I have seen lots of people over the years on TV speaking on behalf of Darlie and working for a new trial for her. In my...
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    Was Darin Routier involved in away with the murder or cover up of their boys?

    Thank you for the link. I know that first theory of mine is far-fetched. It is difficult to come up with a plausible theory that either implicates Darin or that explains his behavior if he had nothing to do with it.
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    Was Darin Routier involved in away with the murder or cover up of their boys?

    The Darin situation is certainly puzzling in this case. I can't fathom why he would stay by her side if he was not involved. On the other hand, the only evidence against him that I am aware of is his weird behavior beginning the night of the murders and continuing to this day, his failed...
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    It simply makes no sense...

    Longtime lurker, first time poster. Nice to meet everyone. The thing that I find so sad, appalling, frustrating, and disgusting about this case is this: It is left to complete strangers to demand justice for the victims. In my opinion, the boys' father has chosen to ignore the evidence and...

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