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  1. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #4

    Excellent first post. I agree with every word you said. I also thought that he saw someone in the parking lot of the BestBuy (where his friend was shopping inside) and he decided quite rashly to act on his impulse to hop into the driver's seat and do something. If he was successful in...
  2. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #4

    Oh, how I hope it is Keith Morrison too. That man was born to do a show like Dateline's mysteries. The quality of his voice and the cadence in his speaking is pure poetry. He weaves together the crime so well and he uses just the right intonation for every piece of the work. I'm so glad you...
  3. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #4

    I'm not having any trouble imagining a number of hypotheticals about his morning approach to the crime. Below is one of those hypotheticals. I am making it up so please don't start rumours that someone said Jonathan worked at Winco or had his helmet with him or had a backpack, etc. This is...
  4. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I know. I'm not clear on why some think now that Clint was involved in the crime. I agree with gwenabob - Jonathan acted alone. And that means Clint was not involved. Why anyone would defend Holt as being innocent at this point is beyond me. We even have solid proof that he has a pattern...
  5. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Remember, we already have a really good reason for why his gas trips would be intentionally short. Since you are forced to have an attendant pump your gas, it usually takes a long time because they start the process and then go on to other cars. Your gas is long done but you still have to wait...
  6. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Did we know this already? If so, I missed it. 5 mins into ride, he pulled a gun on her, and forced her to drive to Roslyn Lake. Documents say Holt admitted all of this. #findwhitney EDIT: looks like BellaBella (above) posted at the same time. I think it is new news.
  7. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    New details of the murder. Reading it now. http://www.katu.com/news/local/Report-Whitney-Heichel-died-from-multiple-gunshot-wounds-175262191.html EDIT: Okay, the tweet was a little misleading - https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ripwhitney&src=hash - it's not that new to us here on the board.
  8. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Thank you for posting this. It was beyond pathetic to watch him on that screen. Made me sick. What a coward this man is.
  9. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Pigs are fascinating and extremely smart animals. I'm not seeing the connection between pigs to Jonathan Holt. I know it's just a figure of speech but language defines an enormous part of who we are. It always bothers me when sick criminals get called by this wonderful creatures' name...
  10. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I think the same thing, too. I would want complete privacy until I was ready on my terms to talk to the world. I grew up in a big city in the south and then lived in Portland and surrounding areas for over a decade. I am ever so grateful that I was able to move to a rural private property...
  11. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I couldn't agree more. I would be terrified to have to go up to the podium and talk. In my mind I feel like what I would want to do is scream out to everyone to please find my baby - please! But in reality I don't think it would happen that way. Stage freight, invasion of privacy, fear of...
  12. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I previously (at 3PM local, posted this): Local TV (KOIN) just said coming up at 4pm - "Whitney Heichel's husband shares his heartbreak. He talks about all that Whitney meant to him and what haunts him about the murder". -- Now they are live on TV. I will try to type what they say. First...
  13. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I previously (at 3PM local, posted this): Local TV (KOIN) just said coming up at 4pm - "Whitney Heichel's husband shares his heartbreak. He talks about all that Whitney meant to him and what haunts him about the murder". -- Now they are live on TV. I will try to type what they say. First...
  14. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Many of us on here have suspected a prior obsession/stalking etc. Thank you for this post. Now we know it is true. He's been playing this out in his mind for a long time now. So sad and frightening.
  15. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    When I watched the first family presser and then how all the reporters used the next morning's presser to ask questions about Clint, I went back and studied the footage. He does smile and laugh (I have still shots of it) prior to the tears. I posted that I thought this was the impetus for...
  16. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Local TV (KOIN) just said coming up at 4pm - "Whitney Heichel's husband shares his heartbreak. He talks about all that Whitney meant to him and what haunts him about the murder". It's 3pm here now.
  17. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I was expecting the quiet approach too - very surprising.
  18. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I agree - the wife's story is critical. But can you imagine being the partner/spouse of someone like this? The minute that spouse commits a heinous crime, YOUR whole life turns upside down. Every inch of your privacy is now subject to LE knowledge. Every piece of paper in the house...
  19. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Just a note about this particular neighborhood (I know it well), the houses are truly spotty in this area. Some are super nice, some are middle of the road, and some are unkempt. And then some are like this one - very bare bones. I think the video showed a bit more of it which gave it that...
  20. CaringCitizen

    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    The 3 photos of Holt strung together side by side.

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