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I get the scenario, but in VTs case we have no motive, he is not a rapist has a good clean record in Holland as well as in the UK, worked hard to get the PHd and good job, got a new life with lovely GF spending Christmas with her parents from 24 till 26 Dec then goes home to his family in...

Thanks Lynn R, if that were so then why didnt the LE state that he was not a suspect because of partial DNA, phone records etc, this was only reported by the press not by the LE. Would have made GRs life a lot easier if they had.

Yes the LL is still a suspect too. I have read that the defence will only find out the full details of evidence in May at the next court hearing. Not sure if that is true. If VT doesnt know the exact evidence against him how can he plead innocent of guilty, but has to wait 4 months to find...

Beautiful picture of Joanna, makes it so real and so tragic for her family. After reading back through the threads I have a couple of things I would like clearing up in my mind. . A few times GRs alibi has been stated as "cast iron" I have not seen this reported anywhere does anyone know...

Sky News reported half hour before VT is due in court this morning that LE have confirmed CJ is still on bail and still a suspect pending further enquiries!

What if VT has another friend/girl, good looking dutch guy, intelligent, succsessful, Unrequited love, jealousy, someone he worked with. It wouldnt be unheard of for a girl to cry wolf when they have been rejected and has said something to LE to convince them. As far as we know the DNA is...

Lots of ingredints! lol

Not heard the expression "Patsy" before is that the same as a scapegoat? Thanks

Yes I know its far fetched, i was going on the assumption that Jo had gone to his flat with all her belongings so therefore he had the keys, and in a panic without a car of his own, my imagination running away with me on this. I havent got used to the idea yet that VT has been charged -...

I was wondering if GR and JY had a second car (sorry if this has already been ruled out) that was already parked at the back of their flats. I know it sounds far fetched but there would be no reason to be suspicious of the car being driven away for a while, he would have been in possesion of...

Does anyone know if anyone mentioned on the thread ie: CJ,PS, EW etc.. have a 4 x 4? iv only heard of CJ having a BMW - just out of curiosity!

Yes I agree and there was no disrespect meant to our forensic labs. He has been retired a few years now - it used to be Texas, plus they can still release MUA on bail like they did LL and arrest them again later on.

Iv asked my husband regarding the partial DNA and what it means (he's a retired DC). He has told me that partial DNA can be grown to get a full profile, maybe have to be sent abroad to do this. Maybe thats what the LE are waiting for?

We would have to know for definate that MUAs GF was not there that evening before he is accused of murdering Jo on that evening and it has been confirmed many times by LE that she was killed in her flat or taken from her flat. There are now 2 offical suspects in this enquiry. CY could never be...

If CJ hadnt been arrested (and is still a suspect according to LE) we all might have believed that what he saw was true and might have looked at couples maybe neighbours. I might have thought well it coudlnt have been GR then if there was JY plus 2 others. With his arrest that just threw his...

I agree with you both on this one. I have thought it was GR from the first missing person appeal on 22 Dec. Until this MUA has been charged then I am going to keep a open mind (as what happened to CJ) The LE must have had GR as a suspect too because they were giving him enough rope to make...

Brilliant, insecurity, jealousy is the motive

Hi All, new to this forum but stayed up late from the beginning reading all the different scenarios of what might have happened to poor Jo. I have at times faltered on my first thoughts on who did this reading someone elses level and thoughtful ideas. But I always come round to GR being the...