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    Brad Cooper: Appeal info

    Judge Stephens is fantastic. I hope he does preside over the retrial.
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    Brad Cooper: Appeal info

    The evidence against Brad Cooper is questionable at best and nonexistent at worst. He deserves a new trial and the Rentz family deserves to feel secure that Nancy's killer has been found and put behind bars - I find it hard to believe that they are completely secure about that right now.
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    17-yo Teen Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #6

    If Zimmerman really had wanted to defend himself, he would have done as the 911 operator said and not pursued Trayvon Martin. It doesn't really matter if GZ thought TM was carrying a gun - as the 911 operator said, that was not his problem. GZ wanted to play hero so he went against what 911...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    I only saw the reading of the verdict - he wasn't taken away right away? Seems like after being handed LWOP he would be considered the ultimate flight risk...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    Does anyone know if they are allowed to have water/coffee/anything in the jury room?
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    I agree. If someone removed her, I think they removed her from the premises and took her...somewhere else. NO idea where that could be though! Unless, of course, as MyBelle mentioned, were all of the drains in the house tested for blood? I remember testimony about CY's bathroom and the...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    I remember testimony about CY's footprints in the bathroom and testing the drains for presence of blood, and one thing that stuck out to me was that there were no hand prints in the sink or bathtub. I will have to go back and see who testified to that...does anyone else remember? It seems like...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    So the jurors requested the same list of stuff, including luggage inventory, in the first trial? I'm really surprised the DT didn't jump all over that.
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    My conclusion is that Gracie didn't interact with JY at all. The person Gracie interacted with doesn't fit what we know of JY's personality/behavior from testimony, so I have doubts that she interacted with Jason Young when there is nothing else to corroborate her testimony.
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    Right, but why would he have lashed out at Gracie? That's not his normal behavior and could be explained as him being wound up because he had just committed a murder and was not in his normal state of mind. He wasn't known for lashing out at strangers like that. If he were a sociopath I don't...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    I've just read books, I'm no expert though, but from what I gather since sociopaths have little/no remorse, JY would either not be so wound up that he lashed out at Gracie - since he doesn't have a history of screaming at strangers like that - or he would get very angry and kill her. I don't...
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    GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

    If JY were really a sociopathic killer, and was indeed at the gas station that morning, I think he either would have been cool as a cucumber and not lost his cool with Gracie, or I think he would have found an opportunity to kill her too. Maybe waited for the other customers to leave or lure her...
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    I think so, but here I don't think it means much because he was looking at a grainy photo where the shoes can barely be made out. I think prosecution asked a couple other questions about square toe/other attributes and had him confirm those, which made the shoe "consistent with" the same...
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    The hush puppy witness who said they shoes in the pic are "consistent with" hush puppy orbitals was in CYA mode. He wasn't going to use more direct language because he couldn't be sure they were indeed hush puppy orbitals or the HPs in question. What shoes did JY say he was wearing? Was he...
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    I'm one of the NG nellies...the reason why I'm not convinced by the hush puppy shoes is that imo they don't put JY at the crime scene, just possibly his shoes, and other than that there is no evidence of him leaving the hotel grounds that night. If there was evidence that JY specifically...
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    If he were really a sociopath, I wouldn't expect him to lose his cool and scream at Gracie at the gas station.
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    I've listed 3, but they're not my opinion of what makes JY look guilty, rather what I think the jury could use to decide he is guilty...and to be honest, I think it will all come down to the first one: I think the jury could view the hush puppy shoes as the 'smoking gun' and decide based on...
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    I think they were anticipating/addressing what the jurors could have been thinking when they saw the testimony about the hush puppy prints.
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    If the size 10 franklins fit so well in JY's plan, why wouldn't he have worn them the entire time instead of also wearing shoes he could be traced to?
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    **Verdict watch weekend discussion thread** 3/3-4/2012

    Didn't JY speak with Meredith the night before while at Cracker Barrel anyway? Even if he didn't memorize or have her number in his phone, he could have written it down so he could call her and explain his side of the remote control incident. If he wanted her number because he planned to call...

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