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Perhaps it was an accident due to neglect. Maybe baby Q fell in the pool when L was using drugs or passed out. She found him, and then covered up the death. I’m thinking LE found evidence to indicate Q’s dead body was present somewhere in the home and or pool. I hope they find that precious baby...

<modsnip> Anyhoo, air bags are unreliable. I mentioned before I was in a head-on accident with a full-size truck in my brand new 2013 Subaru and the airbags did not deploy. I was injured. It’s entirely possible the air bags didn’t deploy on Kiely’s car. Another note, because I have 2- 2013...

Being a Tahoe resident, she likely did have some tools in her car. I used to carry a snow scraper remover for my windshield, I had an axe, flashlight and a snow shovel. Not saying she would be able to use any of these to get out, but I’m curious to know what they recover from inside the vehicle...

Her car wasn’t found on the side of the reservoir with the boat ramp. It was closer to the party site. I agree with the Tahoe resident that it’s unnerving that Tahoe agencies don’t have the resources and or skills that AWP has to perform a water rescue like this. I lived in SLT, and I disagree...

Airbags are not reliable. My airbags didn’t deploy on my brand new 2013 Subaru in a head-on collision with a full-size truck. Also her 2013 CRV would have the seatbelt warning sound. My 2013 Pilot has it. This is such a heartbreaking case. I hope she didn’t suffer.

The news clip with AWP is really interesting. I posted this map on previous thread. This is a back road from Prosser Reservoir to Reno. Select bicycle to see the route. It goes right by Stampede. AWP said Donner Lake is clear and the the smaller ponds near her house. So there’s a lot of info LE...

I was looking on maps for back ways from Truckee to Reno. There is a road, Dog Valley, that probably can be accessed all the way through. At least on a bike you can. Someone should mountain bike this route to check. It goes right by the larger of the reservoirs too.

Sex Wax is used for surf boards, primarily. You can also use for skateboard grinding. There’s snow wax for snowboards & skis and skateboard wax. In Tahoe, a lot of people do all of those activities. There’s a lot of beaches around Lake Tahoe. They have actual sand and waves. The reservoir is...

Creme Brûlée shots? Gross. You do have to use a torch to crystallize the sugar top on creme Brûlée. Either she drove into the reservoir by accident or someone rolled her car, phone & her into the reservoir. I feel like 1 of the 300 people would see that. AWP are amazing, and they’ll provide...

I did notice that there’s an incorrect image of her car being circulated. Her car is the one shown in the snow. She has a LX which is the base model CRV which has the base wheels shown on the snow pic. The other CRV is not hers. Different trim level. Kiely’s CRV is also 4WD, and would actually...

Perhaps she died in one of their fights, and other kids somehow rolled her car or drove her car into the water with her phone to cover it up. I lived in South Lake Tahoe in my early 20s. I also lived in Kirkwood briefly. Previous poster was right when he described Tahoe in that it’s a very...

They should try to get her Snapchat records or other apps like Spotify. They could possibly gain info to her last location. If she was communicating with anyone shady, it likely would be through Snapchat. You could see her last location the last time she logged in. From Snapchat: “Every...

“She has multiple piercings and a tattoo of the number 17 on her ribs.” Does anyone know the significance of “17?” The few images from the party seem like they’re standing around watching something? They’re not sitting and chilling. They’re also wearing sweatshirts/jackets. I really do think...

<modsnip - arguing with moderator’s actions> Everyone’s quick to disregard the LDR sweatshirt, but it reflects the mindset of some of the partygoers. An eerie coincidence? Maybe. I’ve put myself in stupid situations when I was a teen. There’s always older guys who use alcohol and drugs to prey...

I don’t think anyone posted the entire Lana Del Rey poem the sweatshirt is representing. I know the authorities said they think it’s mass-produced, and it doesn’t matter, but it’s actually rare. <modsnip: Copyright infringement>

I did live in Tahoe, and we called it the Donner Pass. Yes, it’s a paved highway, but it can still be sketchy to navigate especially during harsh conditions. The western approach is easier, but it still can be a dangerous road. Especially for an impaired young driver at night. The weather in...

I read through the entire thread, but I want to know whose LDR sweatshirt that is, and how do they know she had it with her? That’s a rare Lana del Rey sweatshirt. Those are lyrics from a POEM. Not song. I doubt the owner would have let her take it with her unless she left abruptly or was...

We have no idea what rides or restraints you are referring to. As far as the FreeFall ride at ICON Park, SingShot Group is the responsible party. They made “manual adjustments to the ride resulting in it being unsafe” and allowed the harness’ restraint opening to be “almost double” of the normal...

Just finished the documentary, and I have a couple of questions. Why did they get a rental car? Did they ever say a reason? What was up with the yellow & green? Was it Madeleine’s favorite colors? Did they know anyone in Portugal other than the friends who came with them? Did they ever find...

Maybe the 50 second call was a collect call. I have an old cell phone that has no active service. I recently attempted to call my husband's phone from it, and it prompted me to make a collect call.