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I can't remember if this was covered, whether Jen was mid conversation in her game when she disappeared, or whether there were lulls. I'm wondering if at 8:15 she skipped off to take a quick shower, expecting to be back in five or ten minutes to continue her conversation, so didn't mention...

Innnnteresting. (hi all)

Sorry to gatecrash, my husband is tired of hearing me yelling at the computer and I need somewhere to go... luckily I knew I'd find people here! I am astonished. I just can't get past her saying she believed that he didn't think he'd kill whoever was in the bathroom. If I were to fire ONE...

You surprise me, sleuths! Her fetlife is still visible, which means his might be too. Hers seems to be locked, but maybe it isn't. I've spent the past two days reading all the threads and at any moment was expecting to see a link to his - but no. I do agree that the majority of people on...

I missed where he was named, but if what I'm hearing is right then this is incredibly tragic. I am interested in why the name supression. I don't know enough about NZ laws to know but always thought it was for celebrities, minors, and people whose careers or families may be hurt if their...

I think this too. Likely speeding, knew he'd be charged and thought maybe he could get away with it. Idiot. I actually really hope this is what it was, as it means it's less likely she suffered. But then.... if he'd called an ambulance straight away maybe she'd be alive. Pretty sure a...

Been lurking (crimes and trials mostly....roll on September!) but out of lurkdom for poor Blessie.

I dearly dearly hope she wasn't taken to those apartments. RIP Blessie. Good job NZ LE.

Possible of course, but I'm relatively familiar with that bus system - the buses run at certain times and I'd say it's more likely she's running for the bus. I think the bus stop she'd have been going to was a stop around 5 min from her office, and either the 7:21 or 7:41 would've gotten her to...

Sorry, been lurking the whole time but just had a thought. Astrokitty I quite like your theory, and I'm wondering - this 'granddaughter' KT was said to have been raising. Could she and Relisha be the same girl? For welfare purposes? KT and his wife claiming her as theirs and SY claiming her as...

While I think in general that drug dealing is, to put it lightly, not an ideal occupation for a parent, for a lot of people your kids are still your kids, and she could've been a great mom in spite of anything else. Not saying I won't feel very angry if it turns out she's in some way related...

Sorry all, I didn't mean to start rumours - tried to make it clear that it was just something I was wondering about as a possibility. I did see that LE are still searching for them, but that doesn't preclude my wonderings, if that makes sense.

Absolute speculation on my part.

That's one I hadn't even considered! Good point and you're likely right - but odd, that they'd let her go when she had information that would lead to them so quickly.

I'm personally thinking that it's possible that they didn't ask for guns or jewellery at all. I'm also wondering, without speculating too far, whether the two suspects they released the sketches of actually exist. As well.... they didn't get the guys the sketches were of. So how did they get...

Was it ever resolved where the sketches of the other two suspects came from? As in, who got a look at them?

About the DCFS call - I wondered if it could've been a member of the community who had suspicions about Willow's disappearance, but who didn't want to make themselves known to police for whatever reason, and figured that might be a way to draw officials attention to the family. Also could've...

Warning: Graphic I've never heard of a stick going through a skull. Particularly when I think about the physics of it - ie the amount of force a petite seven year old might be capable of running into a stick with. Might just be me though. This is leaving aside the other half of the statement...

(RSBM) Yeah good point. I also wondered if she was wanting to pick up some snacks - something the boyf liked, or whatever. Also someone was asking how it was known that she'd been back to the apartment - wasn't it that the party clothes/clothes she'd been wearing when she drove off were...

Also coming out of lurkdom - I've been following along though. I should note that I haven't done any SM sleuthing on this case, so I might be a little clueless about the finer details of the relationships Adrienne had. To me, the calls to the boyf make perfect sense, for the age, the time, the...