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The Letters
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The Letters
Thanks so much JBean.
A quick aside: When I joined this website over a year ago it was because of this case. I remember posting in the "Newbie" thread because I was afraid to post with the regulars for a long time. I am very proud now to be able to say "one of OUR thread"..... makes me a warm inside!
Inmate: Casey Used Chloroform To Get Caylee To Sleep
Defense Opts Not To Fight Release
UPDATED: 9:40 am EDT April 7, 2010
"Snip" http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23...orlpn_7am&tmi=orlpn_7am_1_06000104072010&ts=H
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Pen pal letters between Casey Anthony and another inmate at the Orange County Jail were released Tuesday.
The documents contain information that passed from Casey Anthony to a friend, Robyn Adams, and could provide crucial help to the prosecutors' theories on how she may have killed Caylee.
LETTERS: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23...orlpn_7am&tmi=orlpn_7am_1_06000104072010&ts=H
REPORT: 1 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0406/23069695.pdf
REPORT: 2 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0406/23069716.pdf
VIDEO: Pen Pal Letters http://www.clickorlando.com/video/23067425/index.html
VIDEO: Documents Released http://www.clickorlando.com/video/23073779/index.html
VIDEO: Inmates TalkS http://www.clickorlando.com/video/23074122/index.html
The state attorney's office released more than 500 pages of letters between Anthony and Adams, who is also an inmate. They also released a report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement about interviews with Adams about the pair's relationship.
Adams told agents about how "Anthony would give Caylee 'stuff' to make her sleep," the FDLE report said.
According to the report, Anthony and Adams discussed chloroform and Anthony said she had given Caylee "antihistamines or something" to make her sleep.
Adams told investigators Anthony confessed to using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep, and also implied that Cindy Anthony may have provided.
The report states that Caylee had a hard time taking naps because she was afraid of "missing out on something."
"Casey used the phrase 'knock her out' in reference to medicating Caylee to help her sleep," the report said. "Anthony would always like to have her days free."
Maya Derkovic, another inmate serving a 30-year sentence for murder and carjacking, told investigators Anthony also told her stories about trying to put Caylee to sleep.
Derkovic claimed she spoke with Casey Anthony in the Orange County Jail through their cell's ventilation system during the summer of 2008, and told investigators Anthony admitted to "knocking out" Caylee many times so she could party.
Derkovic said she tried to convince Anthony to tell police the truth, but said Anthony told her she was more worried about what people would think of her than of doing time.
Casey Anthony Letters Mention Nanny, Moving Plans
Anthony's letters also express regret.
Anthony Discusses Being A Single Mom
Allegations Of Abuse
In one letter, Anthony alleges that her brother molested her.
Anthony said the abuse began when she was a teenager and spanned years.
"This went on for over three years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him," Anthony wrote. "I was 15."
Anthony said she believed her dad also molested her when she was younger.
Lee Anthony has been largely absent lately, but Holloway said it is only because he does not want to cover up for his sister.
Casey's 'Crush' On An Attorney
In another letter, she went on to say Baez would be over-protective if she knew men had written her and proposed to her. She also said she felt like a loser for having a crush on one of her lawyers.
Anthony, Adams' Relationship
State prosecutors have said the letters contain information that is relevant to the murder case against Anthony, but do not contain a confession.
FDLE said Adams told them Anthony referenced the discovery of Caylee's remains on two occasions.
"Adams recalled seeing a story on the news in which it was being reported that divers had located a bag of bones in the river at Blanchard Park. That night, Adams went to Anthony to talk to her about it. Anthony told Adams that it was not her daughter. Adams recalled Anthony giggling about the story as if Anthony knew it wasn't her daughter," the FDLE report said.
Agents said Adams told them Anthony only ever seemed afraid on one occasion, when authorities found human remains in the woods by her mother's house.
Adams told investigators that Anthony said Caylee's body was found with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag long before the information was made public.
Again I ask, why has Baez not been taken off this case? All this talk about Baez smuggling in Suduku puzzles, letters that the family emails to him to give to Casey and letters they write to her, he smuggles in as well. I would really like to know where those letters are? Can't the jail do a cell inspection? I thought this behavior on Baez's part is unethical? Is it legal for him to smuggle items and letters to Casey? :furious:
Again, I really don't think Baez took the time to read these letters and that is why he did not stop them from being released. He is lazy IMO. I just don't understand how the Bar has not kicked him off this case or his practice. I don't get it...
Didn't I read somewhere that at least some of the letters were brought in as email/documents on Baez's laptop? As far as the written ones are concerned - Baez probably carried them in with him and took them back out as he left. No wonder he didn't want his visits on video - Mr. Contraband himself!
Also, do you think SA's comments saying these letters etc. not considered a confession could have been just a trick to "relax" Baez? LOL. I would enjoy knowing that.
Well, she better pray for a jury from another planet, after disparaging Italians, Hispanics and saying one chick "got all Black about it", God help her if she ever gets put in general population, for her prejudice, but mainly for killing a baby I believe she would be brutally murdered in prison. I don't think she will ever be in GP, is that correct?
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Originally Posted by notthatsmart
We don't know what Jb knew. I am sure he was being updated by the hour. Sa is obligated to inform him of investigations by law. How can you state it as fact that he didn't know. What is your source? My source is the law. He is to be informed of investigations. IMO
No he specifically was not. This we know. In fact his "team" of investigators was specifically barred from the remains site while it was under active investigation. The sum total of the information comunicated to him were that human remains, possibly those of a child, had been discovered in an area that could possibly be related to his clients case. The state and the coroner were specifically barred by law from releasing anything further then that to the defense. I seem to recall that Dr. G spelled this out explicitly in one of the few brief press conferences she held at the time. Until Caylee was positively identified by the coroner and her findings released to the public, JB would have no right to any information of that investigation. (what is the remains were not in fact Caylee. The coroner would have shared confidential info with a third party). JB was getting his information from the news channels the same as the rest of us.
So Jose would have known that there was an investigation in progress. he would not have any details of that investigation until it was concluded and it became evidence. (about 2 or 3 weeks before it becomes public).
He most certainly did not recieve hourly updates about any of these more recent investigations into the letters. The SA specifically went to the judge and requested that they delay releasing any information to the defense. Given that some of it may implicate JB in some unethical behavior, you can see why it was granted.
Where are you getting your information on what Jb knew or didn't know? You seem to state it as fact. I understand that they were not allowed at the crime scene, but knowledge is a whole different thing. Imo
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Originally Posted by notthatsmart
We don't know what Jb knew. I am sure he was being updated by the hour. Sa is obligated to inform him of investigations by law. How can you state it as fact that he didn't know. What is your source? My source is the law. He is to be informed of investigations. IMO
No he specifically was not. This we know. In fact his "team" of investigators was specifically barred from the remains site while it was under active investigation. The sum total of the information comunicated to him were that human remains, possibly those of a child, had been discovered in an area that could possibly be related to his clients case. The state and the coroner were specifically barred by law from releasing anything further then that to the defense. I seem to recall that Dr. G spelled this out explicitly in one of the few brief press conferences she held at the time. Until Caylee was positively identified by the coroner and her findings released to the public, JB would have no right to any information of that investigation. (what is the remains were not in fact Caylee. The coroner would have shared confidential info with a third party). JB was getting his information from the news channels the same as the rest of us.
So Jose would have known that there was an investigation in progress. he would not have any details of that investigation until it was concluded and it became evidence. (about 2 or 3 weeks before it becomes public).
He most certainly did not recieve hourly updates about any of these more recent investigations into the letters. The SA specifically went to the judge and requested that they delay releasing any information to the defense. Given that some of it may implicate JB in some unethical behavior, you can see why it was granted.
Where are you getting your information on what Jb knew or didn't know? You seem to state it as fact. I understand that they were not allowed at the crime scene, but knowledge is a whole different thing. Imo
I'm thinking the A's will deal with this like everything esle - denial.