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    Carl's reconstruction shows him with a much longer face:

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-07-2014 at 11:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontaigne View Post
    This couldn't possibly be Carl Alfred Eder, could it? It seems like too late and too peaceful a death for such a man.



    Eder '74, left; Eder aged; artist's rendering of Palos Verdes UID, right

    Eder would have been 58 or 59 at this time, so older than the UID is, probably, but height and hair color are all right, and the general facial shape. He was thought to have gone to Tijuana after escaping to get false ID, then to have returned for a time to California near Mt. St. Helens, where he was involved with motorcycle gangs and anti-government leftists, such as the Symbionese Liberation Army. Just throwing it out there.

    Never mind. I'm sure the would have gotten a fingerprint hit.
    Very clearly not Eder. His facial shape is much different.

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    Yes, I can see that in your recon, and I'm always willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, because, frankly, I think you're much better at this than most people who are paid to do it, Carl; but the original sketch, which I'm assuming was also done from a morgue photo, gives a much more squared off chin, and also a more similar eye spacing and placement of the ears, as well as hairline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontaigne View Post
    Yes, I can see that in your recon, and I'm always willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, because, frankly, I think you're much better at this than most people who are paid to do it, Carl; but the original sketch, which I'm assuming was also done from a morgue photo, gives a much more squared off chin, and also a more similar eye spacing and placement of the ears.
    Yes, even considering that in the PM photo, his jaw was a bit slacked, and his mouth sagged, IMO his face is much longer than is depicted in the pencil sketch.

    He might look a have looked little older in life than I depicted, but I think I have his look close enough that we would probably recognize him from my depiction if he showed up on a MP site.

    I'm not so sure that we would recognize him if all we had was that pencil sketch to go by.

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    Well, all I can say is it's a damned good thing you're here, and it's too bad certain forensic artists keep on turning out deceiving crap at the public expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Yes, even considering that in the PM photo, his jaw was a bit slacked, and his mouth sagged, IMO his face is much longer than is depicted in the pencil sketch.

    He might look a have looked little older in life than I depicted, but I think I have his look close enough that we would probably recognize him from my depiction if he showed up on a MP site.

    I'm not so sure that we would recognize him if all we had was that pencil sketch to go by.
    I certainly wouldn't. I have trouble visualizing how the sketch could depict the same person as yours.
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    A few weeks ago, I was watching an episode of American Greed about John Donald Cody aka Robert “Bobby” Thompson. Even though John Cody was wanted by the FBI, for some reason, his fingerprints were never entered into the database; this is why he was not IDed when his fingerprints were originally run. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/authorit...-charity-scam/

    This made me think of Michael Maria Jose Madrid-Doe from Rancho Palos Verdes. From the description of Mike Doe’s tattoos, it sounds like he possibly resided within the correctional system at some point in his life, even though his fingerprints did not produce a match when they ran them [I’m assuming that they ran them].

    It’s unfortunate that they didn’t add photos [or at least sketches] of his tattoos to accompany his case because it would be good to know if they are professional, prison style, a combination, or something else?

    This is the updated link for the Los Angeles Coroner (the link in the first post just goes to the main coroner site) – http://mec.lacounty.gov/wps/portal/m...Num=2001-00616

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    Quote Originally Posted by DippyBlonder View Post
    Ma. in Spain is a girls name given to a boy. Most likely to be Maria (as the 'nickname' is usually Mikey), however it could be Mariano or Marian.
    not spanish but peruvian, when using "maria" as part of a boy's name it would usually be: jose maria, jesus maria or xe: ignacio de maria
    i have never met a latino man named "maria" on its own as that is considered a female name, usually is meant to point to a special devotion to the virgin mary (maria)
    mikey is mostly used as a pet name for someone who is called miguel (michael) or the basque and catalunyan versions of that name, not very common in spanish countries but used more by migrants to english speaking countries as it is easier to say mike/mikey/micky than spell and pronunciation rigmarole



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    I have no idea if I'll be even a little helpful, but I'll try. I just wanted to add some different meanings for things others have stated. If the UID's name is Michael, the inscription Ma Jose' Madrid 97 could mean it was a gift from someone with the last name Madrid or from Madrid, Spain (or Madrid, IA) in 1997.

    I've been pretty well convinced that his name is Michael, and he goes by the name Mike.

    It's hard to know what tattoos might mean if you don't really know what they look like, but...

    A lion with a crown could mean he had a Leo birthday (both the lion and the crown represent Leo). On the other hand, it could also be a sign of strength and courage. I'm sure there are other meanings, but those are the two I know most about.

    A cross with a sword can be a Celtic symbol, which means he could be Irish or Scottish. I know Michael is a common Irish name.

    The stars tattooed on the knees means you bow down to nobody if there's one on each knee, but I only read that there was one on the right knee. I'm not sure what it means when it's only on one of them.

    I'd have to go over things again, probably several times, to come up with any more gibberish.

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    https://identifyus.org/cases/3357

    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

    Michael Allan 1954 Florida
    James Bradford 1942 Arizona

    Dentals and DNA available; fingerprints elsewhere. I wish they'd releae photos of the tattoos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusion View Post
    I have no idea if I'll be even a little helpful, but I'll try. I just wanted to add some different meanings for things others have stated. If the UID's name is Michael, the inscription Ma Jose' Madrid 97 could mean it was a gift from someone with the last name Madrid or from Madrid, Spain (or Madrid, IA) in 1997.

    I've been pretty well convinced that his name is Michael, and he goes by the name Mike.

    It's hard to know what tattoos might mean if you don't really know what they look like, but...

    A lion with a crown could mean he had a Leo birthday (both the lion and the crown represent Leo). On the other hand, it could also be a sign of strength and courage. I'm sure there are other meanings, but those are the two I know most about.

    A cross with a sword can be a Celtic symbol, which means he could be Irish or Scottish. I know Michael is a common Irish name.

    The stars tattooed on the knees means you bow down to nobody if there's one on each knee, but I only read that there was one on the right knee. I'm not sure what it means when it's only on one of them.

    I'd have to go over things again, probably several times, to come up with any more gibberish.

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    “Ma José” could be for “Maria José” which is a traditional spanish female name


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    Another possible match

    Quote Originally Posted by ALadInsane View Post
    Possible match: based on facial similarities, age, name, date and local of disappearance:

    Michael James Walsh

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4703dmca.html
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/walsh_michael.html

    Height and weight don't match. no mention of tattoos. Not much info.
    (but considering they tested a match between John Doe and a missing person without one hand named James...)
    I recently saw this man's information shared on a Missing and Unclaimed Person FB page. I stumbled on something interesting by doing a google search for Michael Jose Missing person. There's a missing man from Pennsylvania who was a Psychologist. He rented a car, went to a conference and they found the car parked near a HIKING location and never found a trace of the missing man although the area was searched. A friend of this man said he was divorced and his ex wife and 10 year old son lived in the Pacific NorthWest and he had said on several occasions that he dreamed of moving out west to be with his son. This made me wonder if he and his son might share the same name- Michael. Perhaps the wedding band was from that marriage and he was divorced but continued wearing it. He was a Psychologist so he could easily afford an Omega watch and chances are he would be well groomed and dressed similar to the man found in CA.. If you look up this name you'll find Michael Jose Malinowski missing from Yardley Pennsylvania. At the time of his disappearance this man had a beard moustache and was reported being 6 ft tall with brown hair and brown eyes and I think it said he was 160lbs. The man found leaning against the tree was reported as being about 6ft- 6ft 2 inches tall with BLUE EYES and I think it said roughly 180lbs. Could he be Michael Jose Malinowski?

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    I made this comment on this thread but there is a man named Michael Jose Malinowski who disappeared from Pennsylvania. A friend of his said he was a Psychologist and was divorced and had a 10 year old son and he mentioned that he wanted to someday move out west to be with his son. What I found interesting is this man rented a car and went to a medical conference or some kind of conference event . The rental car was found parked in the parking lot of a Hiking area. The area was searched and not a trace of him was found. You figure this guy had enough cash to have an Omega watch, would have been presumably preferred to dress well since he was a Psychologist, since he parked and abandoned his rental car in a hiking area thats an interesting similarity since this found man in CA was found in a hiking area. The differences: Michael Jose Malinowski had brown hair and brown eyes. Was listed as 6 ft and I believe 185lbs. The man found in the park was listed as taller and having blue eyes. It also didnt mention if Malinowski had any tattoos. Its hard to believe no one knows this man found in California considering theres a lot of clues with the inscription on the ring. Id bet his son was named after him, He tattooed his name on his arm maybe.

    Oh one more tattoo comment. I saw where a tattoo above the knee or knees was sometimes a Russian gang tattoo but a popular tattoo if you google Tattoo above the knee.. It means that you will not bow down to anyone. Depending on the sword and the name Michael... wish there was a way to see this tattoo. Ive seen lots of military men with tattoos of their kids names and crossed swords.

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