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  1. #31
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    Oct 2005

    Two NYPD Cops with Hooker Trobles Eyed in Slayings

  2. #32
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    Oct 2005

    A Break in the Case?

    Excerpt from NY Post story:

    MYSTERY:One retired and one working NYPD cop -- both with past troubles involving prostitutes -- are being eyed in the ongoing investigation of the serial killings of call girls Maureen Brainard-Barnes (above), Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello and Melissa Barthelemy.

    Two NYPD cops are being eyed in the Long Island serial slayings after investigators learned they got into trouble for hiring prostitutes while working for the department, according to sources familiar with the probe.
    One cop was forced out of the job in the 1990s when his supervisors learned he spent time pursuing hookers and paying street walkers and down-and-out women for sex while he was supposed to be on patrol.
    An internal investigation led to his resigning under pressure, one source said.
    The other officer still works for the NYPD but was stripped of his gun and badge years ago because he allegedly assaulted a prostitute and got arrested during a sting operation.

    The woman complained to police supervisors about the officer but no criminal charges were filed and an internal probe went nowhere, sources said.
    The patrolman was allowed to return to the force, they said, though he was placed on modified duty -- transferred to a paper-pushing job in Manhattan where he's not allowed to make arrests or respond to emergencies.
    "They couldn't prove anything, but they didn't trust him," said one source.
    It's unclear if the disgraced cops know each other or what evidence investigators might have against them in the serial murders.

  3. #33
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    Jan 2005
    Could missing Stony Brook student be 8th body?
    HAUPPAUGE, N.Y. (WABC) -- Could the eighth body found be that of Stony Brook student Jimmy Tsui?

    Kam Wai Tsui lives every day with the grief and the devastating uncertainty of what happened to her youngest son, Jimmy.

    The 20-year-old Stony Brook student vanished without a trace in August of 1998.

    "She has given up on it, she just wants to know if he's alive or not alive," a translator said for Tsui.
    Now, investigative sources tell Eyewitness News they're examining a possible link between Tsui and so-called John Doe number eight. One of the skeletons uncovered this spring along ocean parkway.

    Prosecutors say it's likely that of an Asian male, who was in his late teens or early twenties when he died.

    Detectives now hope DNA will help rule Jimmy Tsui in or out.

    (This was actually posted a few days ago)
    More at link:

    This is going to be very sophisticated . . . consumer sleuthing, ... The degree of intelligence that you can compile this way is really mind-boggling.
    -Marian Salzman

    Never Forget: Zahra Clare Baker

  4. #34
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    Sep 2008
    Headless body washed up on Long Island beach

    THE HAMPTONS (WABC) -- A gruesome discovery on Long Island where a headless body was found on a beach.

    It was discovered about 100 miles east of Gilgo Beach, and now some are wondering if the body is linked to the serial killer who has dumped several bodies in that area.

    more at link


  5. #35
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    Oct 2010
    Forest Dweller.
    NYPD releases info and sketches of unidentified homicide victims found off Ocean Parkway.

    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan

  6. #36
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    Forest Dweller.
    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan

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    Jun 2008


    Wow, this is a bad joke. Sounds like LE is still totally lost. Here's the earth-shattering headline:

    "Police say one serial killer to blame for Long Island killings"

    That's something most people already were convinced of all along. This is nothing new to anyone. While still nobody knows for sure, it always sounded ludicrous to believe the original LE theory: 3 DIFFERENT, UNRELATED serial killers just happened to be using the same area to dump their victim's bodies. And that all 3 of them were smart enough to remain scott-free.

    Oh, and the article says LE has now come up with yet another outlandish-sounding theory: that the terrified prostitute who started this whole case, Shannan Gilbert, who ran screaming through the neighborhood from someone trying to kill her, and who's body has never been found, is not connected in any way to the serial killer! Yah, right.

    I'm not privy to all the ins & outs of the investigation, but it sure sounds like the investigators have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what they're doing.

    I hope they make some real progress soon before even more women get tortured and murdered.
    Last edited by Victor; 12-01-2011 at 02:06 PM.

  8. #38
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    Apr 2011
    Even if SG ran screaming into the marsh and drowned, like LE is suggesting, that does not mean that she wasn't running from the person or people responsible for the other murders.

  9. #39
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    Apr 2011
    "The officer, John Mallia, a 31-year veteran of the Suffolk County Police Department and a former private investigator, is good at finding the things and people that are the hardest to find, like inmates who have escaped from the county jail. His partner is even better at it: Blue, a German shepherd, has worked with Officer Mallia since 2005."

    Suffolk County must have a large K-9 Unit yet the same officer John Mallia has now been named as the officer who found SG's purse, jeans, shoes...

    "On Tuesday, at low tide, K-9 Officer John Mallia found a pocketbook belonging to Gilbert and nearby, authorities recovered her cell, shoes and mangled jeans, authorities said. Mallia also unearthed the first buried victim of the suspected Long Island serial killer a year ago."

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/c...#ixzz1gAFSS6OI

  10. #40
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    Nov 2011
    Brittanie Peart was recently ID'd from a body found last Sunday in Newark, DE.


  11. #41
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    Apr 2008

    An article I read earlier mentioned they "still" believe it could have been a drowning.

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    Apr 2011

  13. #43
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    Jun 2008
    Could the L.I. serial killer be frequenting Detroit now?

    From the ABC News article: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/d...e#.Tvtybno0iuI

    Detroit Police: Killer May Be Targeting Escorts

    By DAVID RUNK Associated Press. DETROIT December 27, 2011 (AP)

    Detroit police fear a killer may be targeting escorts after learning that three of four women found dead in car trunks within blocks of each other had placed sex-related ads on the same website.

    Attorneys general for 45 states had raised concerns earlier this year about how the site, Backpage.com, polices ads for adult services.

    The latest two victims, women aged 28 and 29, were found Christmas morning when Detroit firefighters discovered their badly burned bodies in the trunk of a car that had been set ablaze in a garage. Two other women were found Dec. 19 in a separate car trunk. The medical examiner's office has not determined how they died.

    But Police Chief Ralph Godbee said that three of the women had placed ads for "prearranged adult dating services" on Backpage.com, and investigators were preparing search warrants Tuesday to get more information from the Phoenix-based website. Police were stopping short of calling the deaths the work of a serial killer, Godbee said.
    In a Dec. 26, 2011 photo, Detroit Police... View Full Caption

    Backpage.com said Tuesday that it had provided police with information about ads that a suspect may have posted on numerous websites, and said that the police investigation involves at least 30 different ads on multiple websites, "separate and distinct from ours." The company said it was cooperating with the investigation.

    "Backpage.com shares the concerns of law enforcement and the community that every effort be made to stop violent criminals from using the Internet to commit their crimes," the company said.

    Detroit police didn't immediately comment Tuesday on the company's statement.

    Meanwhile, the families of Demesha Hunt, 24, and Renisha Landers, 23, whose bodies were found Dec. 19, prepared Tuesday for a joint funeral on Thursday.

    The Detroit women were found in the trunk of a car parked in the driveway of a vacant home on the city's east side. They were reported missing by relatives after they didn't return from a night out and police said there were no outer signs of trauma to the bodies.

    Relatives of Hunt, who had a 10-month-old daughter, and Landers did not immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press. Their mothers told the Detroit Free Press on Tuesday that the cousins weren't escorts.

    "These were good girls. They were not on the streets. They had homes," said Landers' mother Chikita Madison.

    Hunt's mother Denise Reid said neither her daughter nor Landers were escorts who advertised services online.

    "That was nothing that they were into," Reid said. "It's nothing that I would even say, 'Oh, yeah. Maybe.' It's absolutely not."

    The names of the two other victims hadn't been released Tuesday. Police also haven't said which three of the women had promoted themselves as escorts on Backpage.com, which is used to buy and sell things but that also carries personal ads.

    Paul DeCailly, a Tampa, Fla.-based attorney who represents escort services in court, said he doesn't believe that Backpage.com could be held liable for providing a service that brings people together. He said a newspaper, for example, wouldn't be held liable for a personal ad placed in its pages.

    "I don't think that throwing in the term 'escort' in this particular situation changes the outcome of potential liability," DeCailly said.

    He noted that the killings come amid government efforts to stamp out the use of the Internet for arranging escorts.

    "Whoever did this, regardless of where he found his victims, was going to do the same thing," DeCailly said. "The question is when they catch him is he going to be someone who even had access to the Internet."

    The attorneys general of Michigan and Illinois were among those across the country who wrote Backpage.com on Aug. 31 demanding that it show it was not promoting illegal sexual activity. The officials had raised similar concerns about Craigslist, which agreed to close its adult services section last year.

    "My heart goes out to these women and their families," said Rob McKenna, the attorney general in Washington state. "Those advertised on adult services sites like Backpage.com are exploited and sometimes terribly harmed. This may be one of those cases."

    James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston who has written about serial killers, said Detroit police could be dealing with a case of a serial killer or a copycat double-killing. Because the bodies were found in pairs it's possible, he said, that more than one person was involved.

    He said the women may have been killed elsewhere and their bodies dumped, a common way that serial killers operate. He noted that online ads for escort services are risky for those involved because they're dealing with strangers. And he said the police warnings for caution might not be heeded.

    "Even when a perpetrator is known to be on the loose, many women will put profit over protection," Fox said.

    On Tuesday, printing business Can You Picture This in Detroit made T-shirts in memory of Hunt and Landers. Money from the sale of the shirts was to go to their families, said owner Clayton Carter.

    Near signs promoting printing for business cards, banners and Christmas cards for the just-passed holiday, three adult-sized shirts in memory of Hunt and Landers sat on a counter along with an infant's shirt showing Hunt and her young daughter, their photos in a heart with red roses.

    "It's disturbing to have this kind of stuff going on in our city," Carter said.

    Sadly, this is probably not our L.I. Serial Killer. The murder of prostitutes is all too common in the U.S. Looking at all the different ones in Long Island and ones on this thread from Florida make that all too clear.

  14. #44
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    Jun 2008

    Finally! A glimpse into shannon's 911 call!

    Woah! Big news: We finally get a glimpse into the "911" call that Shannon Gilbert made the night she died (was murdered?)! From an article on <modsnip>

    This is written by the secretary-treasurer of the Suffolk Detectives Association who personally heard Shannon's call. It's hard to believe, but he says Shannon was totally calm during it.

    Question: Why the hell would anyone call "911" and be totally relaxed? Anyway, he claims that Shannon had a history of acting the same way and running away during other 'tricks' as she did on the night she died. I have a hard time believing it. If so, where are the "911" calls she made at other scenes?

    I still think she was murdered by the serial killer. It's just too much of a coincidence that she was a prostitute that advertised on Craigs List. Then she called 911 scared for her life & ran to a neighbor's house saying she would be killed. Then she really DOES end up dead in the same killing fields as the serial killer had been using.

    "I am writing in response to “Gilbert’s mom asks feds to step in” [News, Dec. 21], in which John Ray, the lawyer who represents Shannan Gilbert’s family, strongly criticized Suffolk County police detectives investigating the Gilgo Beach murders. It is quite obvious that Ray has not listened to Gilbert’s 911 call nor spoken to any investigators assigned to the case. His claims are misleading and lack credibility. I have been a member of the department’s homicide squad for 17 years and worked on the Gilgo investigation in its first three months.

    I listened to Gilbert’s 22-minute 911 call. The 911 operator tried several times to get Gilbert’s location. At one point, she mentioned she was near Jones Beach. Gilbert never said she was at Oak Beach. It is hard to respond to a call when the person calling doesn’t know where he or she is.

    In the house at Oak Beach, Gilbert was not about to be murdered. Her demeanor on the tape was calm. You can hear male voices on the tape, and they are calm. At no time during this call was she desperate. From what I heard on the call, Gilbert was not speaking as if she were in danger. Despite this, she decided to run from the house and her driver, whom she relied on to take her back to New Jersey. During the investigation, I interviewed an individual who drove Gilbert to her “dates” in the past. He said she would leave houses and apartments in the same fashion as she did in Oak Beach. He described her as being a paranoid person and at times acting irrationally.

    As we all know by now, Gilbert ran to another house seeking assistance. She was let into the house. When the gentleman in the house said he was going to call the police, she ran into the reeds across the street. I also interviewed this gentleman. Finally, she knocked on another door, but again ran away before the woman who lived there could find out what was going on.

    Suffolk County has not turned down offers of help from the FBI. The FBI has provided a psychological profile of the offender and coordinated the use of a Blackhawk military helicopter to conduct an aerial search of the Ocean Parkway area, using classified equipment. In addition to the FBI, 12 other law enforcement agencies have assisted the homicide squad.

    The detectives assigned to the homicide squad are some of the most dedicated and knowledgeable in Suffolk County. The units that support this squad — such as the identification section, computer crimes section, criminal intelligence section and the crime lab — are also the best in their respective fields.

    Detectives have traveled to the hometowns of each victim many times to meet with the families, and to several states as part of the investigation. For most of 2011, the detectives assigned have set aside their personal lives, working long hours for weeks at a time. For Ray to insinuate that the homicide squad has given this case less than its full attention because of the victim’s lifestyle is grossly inaccurate."

    Det. Vincent Stephan, West Sayville

    Editor’s note: The writer is the secretary-treasurer of the Suffolk Detectives Association

    Last edited by bessie; 03-28-2014 at 07:47 AM. Reason: replaced non-working link

  15. #45
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    Oct 2010
    The Suffolk Times:


    There is a small article about Jane Doe 9098 at this web site. There is also a police blotter at this site.

    To get to the web site for the above link, enter the following into the Google search bar:
    The Suffolk Times

    It is the first result on the first page.

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