NJ NJ - Hoboken, Hudson River, WhtFem 24-34, UP1454, pierced ears, cowboy boot, Citizen watch, Feb'05

Synthia1021 · Sep 8, 2008

Does anyone else see a resemblence?

http://doenetwork.org/cases/207ufnj.html

to

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stobaugh_katherine.html

Kiki · Sep 8, 2008

I sure do. Great find Synthia. :clap: Are you going to contact the Doe Network?

Kymistry35 · Sep 8, 2008

I definately see a resemblance. Esp. between her and the drawing.

Synthia1021 · Sep 8, 2008

I am so bad at contacting people.. all tongue tied .. ha ha.. but I thought there was a strong resemblence..just need everyone elses advice.. how should I go out contacting someone? Thanks all!

BZY247 · Sep 8, 2008

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200502412S

The above was not reported missing until 12-29-04 she was also reportedly 5ft 7in while Jane Doe was believed to be a couple inches shorter. The above is also suspected to involve foul play while below it is supsected she drowned.

Jane Doe estimated death was Nov 1, 2005 though she wasn't found until Feb 9, 2005. That's almost a 2 month time discrepency (sp?). I would think they would be able to narrow down when she died pretty accurately. Now if it was been longer then a few months it might be more of a possibility of the death date being off.

Now, obviously this is just my opinion and that of the examiners of Jane Doe. and maybe it is her, I just don't see it myself:detective:

Donjeta · Mar 1, 2011

Was this ever submitted for consideration? They do look a lot alike IMO.

Ruleouts:
Amanda Carroll 1979 New Jersey
Hope Curry 1977 Virginia
Carmen Hetrick 1956 Colorado
Penny Lease 1965 Illinois
Maryanne Ruffini 1968 New Jersey

https://identifyus.org/cases/1454

The UID is in Codis according to Doe network
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/207ufnj.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/991/0/
says Stobaugh's DNA status is
Sample submitted - Tests complete

webrocket · Mar 1, 2011

I see the resemblance too. we have seen height discrepancies of 4" or more and the weight is a bit off but that might be due to decomposition.

CarlK90245 · Apr 28, 2011

The Doe Network:
Case File 207UFNJ http://doenetwork.org/cases/207ufnj.html
NamUs UP Case 1454 https://identifyus.org/cases/1454

Reconstructions of Victim

Unidentified White Female

* The victim was discovered on February 9, 2005 in the Hudson River in Hoboken, Hudson County, New Jersey
* Estimated Date of Death: November 1, 2004

Vital Statistics

* Estimated Year of Birth: 1970-1980
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'3" - 5'5"; 145 - 165 lbs
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair with blonde streaks and shoulder length; brown/hazel eyes. Medium to stocky build. Pierced ears. She had very short nails and pink toenail polish. No tattoos.
* Clothing: One black cowboy boot with a hole in the sole and two dark colored socks with floral design. A Citizens quartz watch with a black band.
* Fingerprints: Available
* Dentals: Available. Several fillings.
* DNA: Available in CODIS

Case History
It was determined that the woman drowned because there were no obvious signs of trauma no bullet holes or stab wounds. Investigators do not believe that her death was a homicide.
The woman was fingerprinted, but her prints did not turn up in the State Police database.
Although the woman was found in Hoboken, she could have entered the river at any point.

CarlK90245 · Apr 28, 2011

With the exception of the distance, Stephanie Louise Banks fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/banks_stephanie.html

* Height (5'4") is right (UID estimated at 5'3"-5'5")
* Age (28) is right (UID estimated at 25-35)
* She is a little heavier than Jane Doe, but not much heavier.
* Timeline looks reasonable. SLB was last seen 9 months before the UID was thought to have died, and her disappearance appears to have been voluntary (at least initially).
* Cowboy boots on the UID seem more consistent with a person from Kentucky than from NYC or New Jersey.

chaddylex · Apr 29, 2011

I think they look similar.. maybe she took off and went to NJ to commit suicide.. just a thought...

CarlK90245 · Apr 29, 2011

CarlK90245 said:
With the exception of the distance, Stephanie Louise Banks fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/banks_stephanie.html

* Height (5'4") is right (UID estimated at 5'3"-5'5")
* Age (28) is right (UID estimated at 25-35)
* She is a little heavier than Jane Doe, but not much heavier.
* Timeline looks reasonable. SLB was last seen 9 months before the UID was thought to have died, and her disappearance appears to have been voluntary (at least initially).
* Cowboy boots on the UID seem more consistent with a person from Kentucky than from NYC or New Jersey.

Submitted by e-mail to Donna Fontana of the NJ State Police (NamUs Case Manager).

Another thing I noticed is that the ears are spot-on (If the right ear in the recon is accurately depicted).

webrocket · Apr 29, 2011

there is Kimberly MacIntosh, missing from Johnson City, TN on November 26, 2004. Last seen taking a bus to NYC.

Kimberly was 34 y.o., 5'6", 180 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes. supposedly had previously fractured wrist as per Nampn:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/macintosh_kimberly_m.html

per Namus she was taller at 5'8" and no mention of the prior fracture:

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/153/7/

both sources note double pierced ears and that the only known clothing/accessories Kimberly was seen with was a pink purse. both Namus and Nampn say the UID had pink toenail polish and unspecified pierced ears.

chaddylex · Apr 29, 2011

CarlK90245 said:
Submitted by e-mail to Donna Fontana of the NJ State Police (NamUs Case Manager).

Another thing I noticed is that the ears are spot-on (If the right ear in the recon is accurately depicted).

I agree about the ears... I think they look strikenly similar!!! Curious to see what NJ State Police has to say!!

CarlK90245 · Apr 29, 2011

chaddylex said:
I agree about the ears... I think they look strikenly similar!!! Curious to see what NJ State Police has to say!!

She replied to my e-mail, saying only "Thank you". But at least she acknowledged receipt of my message.

chaddylex · Apr 29, 2011

CarlK90245 said:
She replied to my e-mail, saying only "Thank you". But at least she acknowledged receipt of my message.

Maybe if you have no luck on the UID end, you could go with Stephanie Banks contact. Hopefully they will show a little more interest in finding out what became of her!!

A little off this topic, but the Cynthia Day case, the LE that is on charge of Cynthia's side screwed up again, her daughter is fit to be tied..I think yesterday she MAY finally be making headway.

webrocket · Jun 10, 2011

without any fanfare, Stephanie Banks is now listed as a rule-out at Namus:

here is the complete list as of today:

Mindy Arnett 1981 Michigan
Stephanie Banks 1976 Kentucky
Monica Carrasco 1986 Texas
Amanda Carroll 1979 New Jersey
Jennie Cummings 1976 Texas
Hope Curry 1977 Virginia
Carmen Hetrick 1956 Colorado
Jodi Huisentruit 1968 Iowa
Michele Julson 1968 North Dakota
Penny Lease 1965 Illinois
Ella Beth Lodermeier 1948 South Dakota
TAMMIE MOONEY 1985 Nevada
Sonia Ronquillo 1972 Texas
Maryanne Ruffini 1968 New Jersey
Lucero Sarabia 1983 Texas
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Karen Spencer 1972 Ohio

webrocket · Jun 13, 2011

since Carl's submission was ruled out, I sent an email to Donna Fontana with Kimberly McIntosh's information. that she was heading to NYC by bus in November 2004 and the deceased was found in Hoboken NJ in Feb 2005, the distance between the MP and the UID is explainable. (Hoboken is on the NJ side of the Hudson River across from Lower Manhattan).

webrocket · Jun 20, 2011

got this response this morning from Donna Fontana:

Thank you Mr. xxxx for this information. I will follow up on this.

webrocket · Aug 1, 2011

there are three new rule-outs but Kimberly McIntosh is not yet on the list:

Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
Kathleen Meyers 1962 Delaware
Patricia Viola 1958 New Jersey

LilacStar79 · Aug 12, 2011

The actual location this Jane Doe was found was off a pier at 11th Street and Frank Sinatra Drive in Hoboken, NJ. I live very close to Hoboken and went for a walk tonight after work and walked along this area. It seems not only is it very possible the body could have washed up from another area including NYC, but there are a number of ferries and cruise ships that pass through the waterway including NY Waterway and Spirit Cruises. Cornucopia Cruises also has a dock at 11th and Frank Sinatra Drive. A bit of trivia: I actually went on Cornucopia Cruises two years ago for a friend's senior dinner reception for college. I walked over to this pier and took a picture. As you can see, the Empire State Building is right across the water.

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