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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Megan disappeared from the Express Holiday Inn in Hauppauge. We know from DS that the killer also asked Amber to meet him at this same hotel, though Amber refused. So what's the draw to this particular hotel? What's near there that makes this place so convenient for him? Work? Home? Something.
    A gentleman's club with ties to organized crime five minutes down the road?

    A secluded parking lot where drug dealers frequent often?

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    It is my understanding from comments on other forums that this motel/hotel is well known as a place to meet a prostitute or take a prostitute and that the management is okay with this and probably in on the profits. It is said to be protected from busts. This is MOO and might be appropriate for the rumor thread, but if I put it there no one would see it as being related to this conversation. IMO the serial killer went there not because he is a factory worker, or lives in the area, but because it is part of the sex slave industry.

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    Down at the end of Lonely Street

    Almost every city in the US has these kind of motels. A long time ago my husband and I were broke and accidentally checked into one of these motels. It does not take long to pick up on the vibes. They discourage regular guests. Before we were able to get out of there we received a phone call where someone whispered into the phone, "Get out." Believe me, we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Megan disappeared from the Express Holiday Inn in Hauppauge. We know from DS that the killer also asked Amber to meet him at this same hotel, though Amber refused. So what's the draw to this particular hotel? What's near there that makes this place so convenient for him? Work? Home? Something.
    I'm getting the impression that this question by Mountain Cat is *Very* important.

    I wonder if LE has noted this too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    I sort of doubt that the police went to the trouble of checking the store's surveillance.

    And thinking more about it, we don't really even know if Waterman had a Craigslist date that night. It could have been a "good samaritan" who just gave her a ride...
    And they should be ashamed of themselves for not doing that. It's one of the first things they should have done.

    What time of night was this? Was it after 1:00AM? The surveillance tapes would have been recording during that hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Megan disappeared from the Express Holiday Inn in Hauppauge. We know from DS that the killer also asked Amber to meet him at this same hotel, though Amber refused. So what's the draw to this particular hotel? What's near there that makes this place so convenient for him? Work? Home? Something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwntwnslim View Post
    I'm getting the impression that this question by Mountain Cat is *Very* important.

    I wonder if LE has noted this too?

    How about a previously unidentified connection to JB involving a man who HAPPENS to live just across the highway from that hotel where Megan disappeared? A distance of 1.6 miles to be exact, by car. You can probably see the hotel from his back yard? A doctor. A doctor who has/had an office in Brooklyn? Lives/lived in Hauppage, works/worked in Brooklyn...hmmmm. How exactly would a person like this get to be listed on public search entities as an alias of JB? And more importantly, how would you go about getting info like that removed? Someone did. I ran the search initially in Dec 2010 and then again last August....the alias is gone, wiped clean. But I have the old screen shots of the way it used to look in Dec 2010.

    I've been sitting on it for almost a year and a half. I was told when I found it that it was just a coincidence. I don't know how two TOTALLY different names wind up this way unless one of them uses the other's name for something or Brewer turned into something like Joe Aphisiadoelfod (no that's not it but the 'odd name' associated with JB's, as an alias, seems just as ridiculous) and I don't buy that it was an over site or an accident.... but okay...it's out there now regardless. I've had one coincidence too many. He also shows an address in Oak Beach. It could be nothing but it's really bugged the shyt out of me for a very long time.

    I'd gladly post the screen shots but I haven't figured out how I'm going to do that without Trisha jumping out of my monitor and beating me with my keyboard. I have no idea who this man is but I can tell you the real guy is somewhat older than JB. Just know that the name in question is far beyond Smith, Johnson or say, Jones and the property in Hauppauge came back listed to him IIRC. Another coincidence? I think not.

    Is this the kind of connection you're looking for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwntwnslim View Post
    So, let me make sure I've got things straight.

    Megan Waterman disappeared from a hotel at 1:30am, Sunday, from a hotel that may or may not call the police when you ask them to, in an area that is basically deserted?
    Was she the one that was found along the highway ... possibly the guy that caused the trouble at the hotel was the same one that picked her up along the highway and offered to drive her home or threw her in the ditch?

    Has that lead produced anything? Someone gave a name to reserve the room ... was it the woman that was left to wander along the highway, found dead? Was the person she was with completely ruled out? If that person was ruled out, then I think that it's someone very local ... that would be an opportunity crime. But ... at the same, there are the well planned phone calls from the middle of times square (something like that). Perhaps it escalated from well planned, neutral areas of abduction far from home to areas closer and closer to home because the guy wasn't getting caught - getting away with committing a lot of murders.

    I'm on a tangent ... sorry ... but this case is bigger than my mind can process. There's something ... like escalating in his modus operandi by moving his body locations and abductions closer to home ... that helps identify where he is living. Is there a map of all the body locations plotted ... a large map ... I've tried plotting them myself and there seemed to be several body locations, but bodies from all locations seemed to be tied together.

    Seaslug, do you have this type of map? I really appreciate your maps.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaslug44 View Post
    A gentleman's club with ties to organized crime five minutes down the road?

    A secluded parking lot where drug dealers frequent often?
    I noticed that too, Seaslug...having a bit of a strip club obsession with this case. So, what time do strip clubs close for the night? Sometime around 1 am?
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    Please can we have the name? PLEASE?!

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    (I posted this in Melissa's folder, but want to repost it here in Megan's folder as well.)

    Something that kind of jumped out at me this morning regarding the phone calls to Melissa's sister: they went on for quite some time. LISK initially talked about all the things he did to Melissa, but never mentioned killing her until the very last call. So, did he hold her somewhere? If so, do the forensics bear this out? If he didn't hold her, then she was at the dumpsite (along with Maureen) the entire 6 months he was calling Melissa's sister and tormenting her. What prompted him to end the calls by telling the sister Melissa was dead? My guess is because the game got old to him. Move on to a new game. Court another victim. That next victim would have been Megan. So if Melissa disappeared July 10, 2009... and if the calls went on for 6 months, that puts us some time in January of 2010. Megan disappeared June 6, 2010. That's 5 months time LISK had to court her, assuming he devoted himself strictly to her (which he may not have).

    So my question is this: what do we know about Megan's activities from Jan.-June 2010 ? Anything?
    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomes View Post
    Please can we have the name? PLEASE?!
    The one in Commack that is named in this news article;

    Gambino And Bonnano Crime Families Recruit Sex Workers For Strip Clubs In New York

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    I'm talking about shutterflys post about the DR..Duh!!!

    Is this DR a Radiologist with the initials RS?

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    Shutterfly your post made my jaw drop... I'm with SherlockHolmes on this, please let us know the name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterfly View Post
    How about a previously unidentified connection to JB involving a man who HAPPENS to live just across the highway from that hotel where Megan disappeared? A distance of 1.6 miles to be exact, by car. You can probably see the hotel from his back yard? A doctor. A doctor who has/had an office in Brooklyn? Lives/lived in Hauppage, works/worked in Brooklyn...hmmmm. How exactly would a person like this get to be listed on public search entities as an alias of JB? And more importantly, how would you go about getting info like that removed? Someone did. I ran the search initially in Dec 2010 and then again last August....the alias is gone, wiped clean. But I have the old screen shots of the way it used to look in Dec 2010.

    I've been sitting on it for almost a year and a half. I was told when I found it that it was just a coincidence. I don't know how two TOTALLY different names wind up this way unless one of them uses the other's name for something or Brewer turned into something like Joe Aphisiadoelfod (no that's not it but the 'odd name' associated with JB's, as an alias, seems just as ridiculous) and I don't buy that it was an over site or an accident.... but okay...it's out there now regardless. I've had one coincidence too many. He also shows an address in Oak Beach. It could be nothing but it's really bugged the shyt out of me for a very long time.

    I'd gladly post the screen shots but I haven't figured out how I'm going to do that without Trisha jumping out of my monitor and beating me with my keyboard. I have no idea who this man is but I can tell you the real guy is somewhat older than JB. Just know that the name in question is far beyond Smith, Johnson or say, Jones and the property in Hauppauge came back listed to him IIRC. Another coincidence? I think not.

    Is this the kind of connection you're looking for?
    Nope.

    For some reason, I think the connections are more obvious.

    Like, right in front of our faces obvious.

    MOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    (I posted this in Melissa's folder, but want to repost it here in Megan's folder as well.)

    Something that kind of jumped out at me this morning regarding the phone calls to Melissa's sister: they went on for quite some time. LISK initially talked about all the things he did to Melissa, but never mentioned killing her until the very last call. So, did he hold her somewhere? If so, do the forensics bear this out? If he didn't hold her, then she was at the dumpsite (along with Maureen) the entire 6 months he was calling Melissa's sister and tormenting her. What prompted him to end the calls by telling the sister Melissa was dead? My guess is because the game got old to him. Move on to a new game. Court another victim. That next victim would have been Megan. So if Melissa disappeared July 10, 2009... and if the calls went on for 6 months, that puts us some time in January of 2010. Megan disappeared June 6, 2010. That's 5 months time LISK had to court her, assuming he devoted himself strictly to her (which he may not have).

    So my question is this: what do we know about Megan's activities from Jan.-June 2010 ? Anything?

    Mountain_Kat

    FYI, the phone calls to MB's sister started July 16, 2009 and ended Aug 26, 2009 with the caller saying he killed Melissa.
    Thecalls ended after a Buffalo TV station revealed their existence.
    So the timespan of the calls where 5 weeks and 3 days.


    2009 calls from MB cell phone, (7 all together, the last 3 calls date is not known):

    July 16,

    July 19

    July 23

    Aug 26
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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