VA VA - Newport News, Male 35-50, UP5532, next to warehouse, clothes, Sz 7.5 shoe, Apr'92

CarlK90245 · Jun 21, 2011

NamUs UP Case 5532 https://identifyus.org/cases/5532

Unidentified White Male

The victim was discovered on April 07, 1992 at 231 Enterprise Drive, Newport News Virginia. Near complete or complete skeleton (sun dried and bleached).

Vital Statistics

Estimated age: 35-50 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: Unknown
Dentals: Available
Clothing: Light colored, front button, short sleeve shirt; light colored boxer shorts. Found near the skeletal remains were a pair of "Jordache" blue jeans. Black and white, size 7 1/2 tennis shoe
DNA: Sample available - Not yet submitted

Case History
A maintenance worker observed the skeletal remains adjacent to a warehouse on Enterprise Drive.

Ambercat · Jun 21, 2011

Did LE estimate how long she had been there? Cause of death?

CarlK90245 · Jun 21, 2011

Ambercat said:
Did LE estimate how long she had been there? Cause of death?

Neither the PM interval, nor COD was indicated in NamUs. But the "sun bleached" condition of the bones would suggest that they had been there for a considerable length of time (i.e., over a year). But since her clothing was still there, I wouldn't think that she was there for more than 5-10 years.

webrocket · Jun 21, 2011

the bust is helpful but there is so little information to go on. no height, hair color or estimated date of death.

dentals are tough with the post-mortem losses but that's about all we have to work with.

sad.

CarlK90245 · Jun 21, 2011

webrocket said:
the bust is helpful but there is so little information to go on. no height, hair color or estimated date of death.

dentals are tough with the post-mortem losses but that's about all we have to work with.

sad.

She was missing quite a few teeth antemortem, so I suspect that she was a vagrant or drug user.

Irish_Eyes · Nov 26, 2011

Maybe Rhonda?

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2448/4/

Rhonda was 29 when she went missing in 1987...so she could be in the lower end of the age range.

traacker13 · Nov 26, 2011

Wow! Rhonda looks pretty similar to the reconstruction. Good Work, Irish Eyes!

webrocket · Nov 26, 2011

traacker13 said:
Wow! Rhonda looks pretty similar to the reconstruction. Good Work, Irish Eyes!

could be Rhonda but she has no dentals on file and that is the only identifier currently available for the UID.

mamashawn · Apr 4, 2012

The UID's profile now says "Samples submitted-tests not complete" regarding DNA. So we're one step closer to having another identifier. She and Rhonda do look a lot alike.

belfastgirl73 · Apr 5, 2012

Rhonda looks like a very good possible to me too!

DippyBlonder · Aug 28, 2012

http://crimesolvers.net/missing-person-details/anita-marie-gunn
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gunn_anita.html
http://doenetwork.org/cases/2246dfva.html

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: July 1953
Age at Time of Disappearance: 37 years old
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark hair.
Anita Gunn has been missing since August 31, 1990. She last spoke to her sister by phone around 20.00 that day.
Gunn told her sister she had just finished having dinner with her estranged husband and they were going to his home to work out their marital problems.

Right age
Right place (78 miles away)
Right time
and the reconstruction looks pretty good too.
Shame there is no information on Anita's dentals but...

I will submit this one.

DippyBlonder · Feb 15, 2013

Confirmed this is NOT Anita Gunn

and the details have changed from female to male!

Carl can you update the initial post?

webrocket · Feb 15, 2013

this one is going to be fun. I wonder why they thought this was a female? height? only 5'5". size 7 1/2 sneakers??

the UID was wearing boxer shorts and while I know some women wear 100% cotton boxers for a particular reason, most wearers of boxers are men.

a bigger question for me is that they say a pair of Jordache jeans were found near the remains and that he was only wearing the boxers along with a shirt. I wonder why the guy was in a partial state of undress? does anyone know if this particular area was a place where guys went for some casual anonymous activities?

Angie4b1g · Feb 15, 2013

The boxers make more sense now.

7 1/2 shoe is small for a man, so it's likely he would be of slight build.

rob525 · Feb 15, 2013

webrocket said:
this one is going to be fun. I wonder why they thought this was a female? height? only 5'5". size 7 1/2 sneakers??

the UID was wearing boxer shorts and while I know some women wear 100% cotton boxers for a particular reason, most wearers of boxers are men.

a bigger question for me is that they say a pair of Jordache jeans were found near the remains and that he was only wearing the boxers along with a shirt. I wonder why the guy was in a partial state of undress? does anyone know if this particular area was a place where guys went for some casual anonymous activities?

My first thought when I read your post was to wonder if this isn't tied to Elton Manning Jackson. He operated around the Portsmouth Va. area during that time.

http://www.murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jackson-elton-manning.htm

webrocket · Feb 15, 2013

rob525 said:
My first thought when I read your post was to wonder if this isn't tied to Elton Manning Jackson. He operated around the Portsmouth Va. area during that time.

http://www.murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jackson-elton-manning.htm

sounds more than plausible. thanks for finding that rob.

rob525 · Feb 15, 2013

Just checked a little further and the age range of the UID seems to fit the age of the victim he was convicted of murdering.Also the site where the UID was found is within a mile of interstate 64.Proximity to the IS also being part of Jacksons MO.

CarlK90245 · Mar 1, 2013

It turns out that this is not a woman, it was a man. Dippy pointed it out earlier, but I didn't notice.

http://articles.dailypress.com/2013...ed-body-unidentified-persons-system-leah-bush

The third person found in Newport News was originally thought to be a woman, but DNA testing since revealed it was a man, Bush said. A new model was made and unveiled as one of the four revealed on Thursday at the Norfolk Health Department.

In that case, authorities recovered skeletal remains of a man 35 to 50 years old next to a warehouse at 231 Enterprise Drive in the northern part of Newport News on April 7, 1992, Altman said.

CarlK90245 · Mar 1, 2013

I'd say this is John Flowers

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10841/10

webrocket · Mar 1, 2013

isn't Flowers a tad too tall for this UID? last we knew the deceased was about 5'5" and Flowers was said to be 6'1".

VA VA - Newport News, Male 35-50, UP5532, next to warehouse, clothes, Sz 7.5 shoe, Apr'92

UID Moderator

Well-Known Member

UID Moderator

New Member

UID Moderator

Well-Known Member

New Member

New Member

Member

New Member

Active Member

Active Member

New Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

UID Moderator

UID Moderator

New Member

DNASolves

Online statistics

Forum statistics