Hey Salem, thanks for your work here and patience.
Is it allowed to claim perjury has been committed and forged documents have been presented by the prosecution without proof? Doesn't the statement need to be in the form of an opinion? This is the same thing that started the mop battle- a poster claimed there was no mop outside the cottage and was proven wrong. Then the testiness and insults started.
Recently I have been called out to link proof on my OPINION, yet bold statements of perjury and forged documents, not to mention planting of evidence... skate right on by with 'thanks' given to the post by their group.
I don't understand.
Is it allowed to claim items on RGs person and crimes he supposidly committed without proof? Would not a valid link be necessary? Should it be in the opinion or impression form?
Why when a poster calls out another as lying about a previous situation, and that poster is proven to be false... both post are deleted? Could not just the snarky violating parts be removed even though more work for you? All of my post was factual proof that could be verified. Almost nothing the other poster was saying was true of what actually happened.
I felt it was important to protect my position with absolute proof of what went on in the earlier exchanges about the mop. Several of the 'old hands' here definately know what happened, but to the newcomers it probably looks bad if one poster is said to by lying and it is not disproved. Not one word in my rebuttal was false. When it is in the open all can see who has been fudging the truth, taking it to a pm war is not satisfactory IMO.
True the snide remarks and snarky behavior should be left out... sorry about that and it will not happen again.
Hi dgfred -
First - let me say this is the type of post that should be sent to the moderator by pm. And just as an FYI - you may send such a post to any mod, doesn't have to be me.
Second - posters are allowed to interpret the facts, media reports, etc. ANY way they wish. Accusations against anyone should be linked up with main stream media (MSM) or LE reports. NOT blogs, facebook, social media sites, etc. That info is all considered rumor.
Posted information that is inferred from the facts as known should be stated as such and worded in such a way that other posters know it is speculation/theory/opinion and not fact.
Third - I unapprove or snip depending on the amount of time I have for reviewing threads and the contents of the post. When I am short on time, I don't bother to snip - I just unapprove. Of if the post is quoted more than once, I unapprove. It is time consuming to snip all the posts.
Bottom line is: if you have something important to say - say it without being snarky or engaging another poster, or the post is likely to disappear and all your hard work will be wasted.
There is NO REASON to call each other liars, talk about other posters like they can't read or aren't here, or to communicate like 3rd graders. There is just no reason for that. You can say what you want to say without being snarky.
Using the mop discussion as an example -- it would have been sufficient to post the picture of the mop outside the apartment, state your opinion, "I clearly see a mop outside the apartment in this picuture" and be done with the whole thing. If someone comes back and refuses to believe it - so be it. Let go. Roll right on by. There is no reason for further discussion. Asking someone if they can see the picture is fruitless. Another poster may also say the mop was placed outside the apartment after the police arrived. If they state this as fact, they need to have a link. If they state it as their opinion -- they are entitled to it and it is NOT up to anyone else to change their mind. That's what they think and that's okay.
That is just an example - I don't really know all the info associated with the mop discussion. The key is really to disengage the emotion and state the facts. The best discussion comes from the theories/speculation/ opinions. Keeping in mind that everyone is entitled to come up with whatever they wish - EVEN IF the facts clearly so it is wrong or can be refuted. They are still entitled to their way of looking at things.
I hope this helps. This is a very interesting case. I see valid points and opinions on both sides of the fence and would find this thread a lot more pleasant to moderate if ya all would stop the
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Salem