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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella5 View Post
    I'm going to make a prediction... and you locals will probably agree. By the end of the day Art Margulis and/or his son Billy-Bob (okay, not really) William Margulis will show up on the scene as her defense attorney(ies). I'm willing to bet money on it. They cannot stay away from the high profile cases, and they pull no punches on butting up bs defenses that put Baez's slime to shame.
    I think one thing we should be thankful for is that it does seem mom has confessed. She was taken back, handcuffed, to both crimescenes (the home and cemetery). That will make it a lot easier to get a conviction... as long as it doesn't get thrown out.

    I was hoping and praying last night that mom wouldn't lawyer up and stop talking. I really thought she might?
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    No way this was an accident JMHO.

    Rest in peace little guy, you sure were a cutie patootie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella5 View Post
    I'm going to make a prediction... and you locals will probably agree. By the end of the day Art Margulis and/or his son Billy-Bob (okay, not really) William Margulis will show up on the scene as her defense attorney(ies). I'm willing to bet money on it. They cannot stay away from the high profile cases, and they pull no punches on butting up bs defenses that put Baez's slime to shame.

    It's just my opinion, but I believe the person responsible deserves the same defense available to Tyler. NONE.

    (yes, I know all the reasons that's wrong but killing a baby is just evil & inexcusable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
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    Autopsy complete on 1 yr old TylerDasher. STL Co. Medical Examiner's office determined a cause of death, but says police must release it.

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    this is strangely worded imo, seems like it should be "but says police must not release it" maybe i'm just going crazy this morning but i don't see the need for the word "but" in this sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    Unfortunately I think a lot of people are still going to minimize this mother's actions. It's the primary reason in my opinion that so many mothers literally get away with murder. Soon we will see a defense attorney spinning how young she is, how difficult her life has been, she was abused, no support system, etc.

    JMO
    I hope they don't minimize,she had a multitude of people that loved her and that baby,even on facebook last night,all the friends posting to one another that loved him and her and in support.And what excuse for leaving your beautiful baby with nothing on,face down in the ground,alone.I just can't get the picture out of my mind and we didn't even physically see it,can you imagine someone actually doing it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella5 View Post
    I'm going to make a prediction... and you locals will probably agree. By the end of the day Art Margulis and/or his son Billy-Bob (okay, not really) William Margulis will show up on the scene as her defense attorney(ies). I'm willing to bet money on it. They cannot stay away from the high profile cases, and they pull no punches on butting up bs defenses that put Baez's slime to shame.
    Nope. As a local my opinion there is No Way Margulis will touch this with a ten-foot pole. This family has no $$$. Remember, he is Auggie #4s personal atty (and he is always in trouble)!

    This will not be a high profile case IMHO. There will be a plea & she will be in prison for a very long time . . .

    Just because the media is making this a frenzy, I don't believe we in the StL legal community are affected by Bozo & that circus at all (can I call him that?) . . . now, if some ambulance chasing non-StL atty comes on board, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I think one thing we should be thankful for is that it does seem mom has confessed. She was taken back, handcuffed, to both crimescenes (the home and cemetery). That will make it a lot easier to get a conviction... as long as it doesn't get thrown out.

    I was hoping and praying last night that mom wouldn't lawyer up and stop talking. I really thought she might?
    That's what worries me! They seem to get thrown out on ridiculous technicalities. Just look at the Alyssa Bustamante case. She confessed to killing her 9 year old neighbor Elizabeth just to see what killing someone felt like and the judge threw that out! WHAT!?!?! That infuriates me!!! Anything said be the suspect should be admissible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    CheathamKMOV Craig Cheatham
    Autopsy complete on 1 yr old TylerDasher. STL Co. Medical Examiner's office determined a cause of death, but says police must release it.

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    wow that was quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by askfornina View Post
    this is strangely worded imo, seems like it should be "but says police must not release it" maybe i'm just going crazy this morning but i don't see the need for the word "but" in this sentence
    ME can't release it unless LE approves it. That's how I interpreted it. Some LE will seal it until trial. Not sure what the laws are in MO though.

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    I think she drown him and hence the nakedness. I'm surprised she didn't wrap him in a blanket or a bag though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by askfornina View Post
    this is strangely worded imo, seems like it should be "but says police must not release it" maybe i'm just going crazy this morning but i don't see the need for the word "but" in this sentence
    It's weirdly worded, but I think the ME is saying, "yes, we know the cause of death, but it is the police rather than the ME'S office who must release that information to the public". MOO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    ME can't release it unless LE approves it. That's how I interpreted it. Some LE will seal it until trial. Not sure what the laws are in MO though.
    ohhh yes that makes a lot more sense! thank you! d'oh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella5 View Post
    Sources are telling Fox2News that the woman in custody is indeed Shelby Dasher

    You never want to believe a mother is capable of this!

    Today it seems mothers are very capable of killing their babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    wow that was quick.
    We know from yesterday's press conference that there were no signs of trauma... so I wonder how they were able to determine COD so soon? It wouldn't have been drugs because we would have had to wait for toxicology tests, right?

    I would either think that he had internal injuries or she smothered him, but with the "source in LE" saying she got extemely angry... I'm thinking he died of internal injuries caused by something violent. There are times when there are no outside signs of abuse, but their inner bodies tell you something different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomod View Post
    I want to applaud LE in this case! I think that it is very telling that they immediately began to interview the mother in the case. They continued - on the very day that the child went missing - to interview family members and the mother. They did an excellent job of likely interviewing her until her story changed. Too many LE almost act scared to interview the parents of missing children. IMHO, if they do not jump immediately into action during those first few critical days, the "perp" will get their stories straight in their minds. They are harder to break. They are more set on NOT telling what really happened.

    LE in Tyler's case did an excellent job by interviewing the family late into the night. This is obviously my opinion; however, an arrest was made quickly.
    Thanking this post is not enough!!!

    As a local who has lived off & on in StL for 25 years, our Police force is stellar & the County is even better. Yeah, there's corruption & rumors of brutality, but they work diligently in this crime-ridden area. It is up to us, the community, to help them!

    One problem they do face is when "witnesses" don't come forward. If you didn't know, StL has repeatedly been the murder capital of the Country, exceeding the # of murders in Detroit some years. Some cases are solved, many are not, but I cannot help but think that it's a community effort. When there are no leads or no path to follow, LE is stymied & move on to the next case (there are so many).

    Kudos to those who were so on top of this !!!
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