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    TIMELINE: Melissa Barthelemy

    TIMELINE for Melissa Barthelemy

    Here’s another unfinished timeline.

    Info on the years from 1985 to December 11, 2010.

    PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE THE WORK
    (But PLEASE ONLY add FACTS/and/or quotes from newsreports)




    1985 (ca.) Melissa Barthelemy was born.(don´t know what date she was born?)
    She grew up in Buffalo NY

    2003 She graduated from Buffalo's South Park High School

    2004/2005 Earned her cosmetology license from Continental Beauty School. She worked at a Supercuts in her home town before moving to NYC,

    2006-2008
    Melissa Barthelemy moved from Buffalo to New York City to make money to start a hair salon.

    Melissa worked at a barber shop and was later hired as an exotic dancer.

    Eventually working, on occasion, for an escort agency called James Bond Entertainment under the pseudonym Chloe


    2009

    Thur July 9, Melissa sent a late-night text message to her sister, Amanda. That text was the last time the family would hear from her.

    Fri July 10 Melissa Barthelemy saw a client and then deposited $900 into her bank account, her mother said.
    Fri July 10 Melissa seems to have tried to call an ex-boyfriend, who didn't answer.
    Fri July 10 She also checked her voicemail from two motels in Massapequa, a Budget Inn and a Best Western

    Sun Jul 12: that evening Melissa had a lined up a "date" with a client for $1000 (on Long island)
    Sun Jul 12: Melissa Barthelemy, 24, was last seen leaving her home on 1149 Underhill Ave in The Bronx (MB's phonenumber:917-574-5957 )
    Sun Jul 12: version 1: A call made to Barthelemy's voicemail came from Massapequa, a Long Island.
    Sun Jul 12: version 2: Acc to police Melissa Barthelemy's phone had been turned on near Massapequa, on LI, and someone had gained access to her voice mail.
    Sun Jul 12: version 3: Phone rec. July 12, show someone accessed MB's voice mail on the evening of her disappearance. Call traced to Massapequa cell tower.
    Sun Jul 12: version 4: When cops got MB's phone records, they determined she checked her voice mail from Massapequa, L.I.

    2010

    Dec 11 Melissa Barthelemy's body found at the north side of Ocean Parkway, Gilgo Beach. She was ” found a few feet into the brush off the parkway" police said.



    The seven Jul/Aug 2009 phonecalls, made by the killer to Melissa's little sister Amanda.
    Quotes:

    According to newsreports, there were seven calls in all.
    The caller I.D. displayed the number of Melissa’s missing cellphone
    The killer always phoned in the evenings,
    The killer always spoke for less than three minutes.
    In all phonecalls the caller only wanted to talk to Melissa Barthelemy's little sister Amanda.
    One time MB's mother answered, and the killer hung up as soon as he heard her voice.
    Whoever was calling knew what Amanda looked like.
    Police traced some of the calls to midtown Manhattan; Times Square, and Madison Square Garden, and another to Massapequa.
    The killer sounded like an "older white guy"
    Authorities tell CBS News he's likely white, between 25 and 40, is intelligent and street-smart
    The killers voice was self-assured, a low voice, calmly mocking MB's sister.
    "He was calm, in control," "He knew what he was doing." Amanda says.
    "The voice on the other end was calm and bland, and never yelled or laughed" her mother, Lynn Barthelemy, said.
    The killers was vulgar, mocking and insulting, according to the dead woman's mother, Lynn Barthelemy.
    ''If you accept it was the killer calling, he certainly had feelings of anger towards prostitutes.'' Mr. Cohen, Lynn Barthelemy's lawyer, said.

    The calls abruptly stopped in August 2009 after a Buffalo TV station revealed their existence.


    2009 calls from the killer, using MB's cell phone.

    7 calls were made, Belowe are the 4 known dates, the last 3 calls has not been disclosed):


    Thurs July 16, 2009: first call
    Sun July 19, 2009:
    Thurs July 23, 2009
    Wed Aug 26, 2009: last call ( 01:00 am, lasted ca 40 seconds ) traced to the Times Square area.



    SK Phonecalls content:

    Thise are quotes from some of the phonecalls:

    “Is this Melissa’s little sister?”

    “I hear you’re a half-breed.”

    'Do you know what your sister is doing? She's a whore.' (1st call according to LB's atty Steve Cohen)

    “Are you gonna be a whore like your sister?”

    "Do you think you'll ever see to her again?," .... "You won't. I killed her," (after having sex with her, he claimed Aug. 26, 2009, 1AM )
    In the final call, the man described in graphic detail to the victim's sister what he had done sexually to Barthelemy, Cohen said.

    And according to LB's atty Steve Cohen, in Dec 2011 48 Hours:

    The killer also said that he know where Amanda lives and that he might come after her.

    and that; "The killer said sexually exposit things as to what he had done to Melissa, and he said sexually

    exposit things as to what he was going to do to Amanda"



    Melissa's boyfriend, Johnny Terry also recived several phoncalls, probably, from the killer

    1.According to Melissa's boyfriend, Johnny Terry, he too recieved taunting calls from someone he described as a "white guy".

    2.Terry received over thirty phone calls during an eight month period, the caller mentions tattoos. Terry is quoted as saying, “He was threatening me. He said you liked to do some crazy stuff with Melissa. I know where you be at. Most of the time he seemed drunk. He knew who I was. He knew I had tattoos on my back.” One of the phones used to make these calls was a throw-away phone registered to Mickey Mouse.

    3.Earlier that evening (July 12, 2009), the blond beauty told her boyfriend that she might be going to Long Island, a frequent haunt of hers. She regularly hung out there with a girlfriend who also worked as an online escort, as well as at the home of a regular client. Her boyfriend said he would oftentimes pick her up from the john's house."She would go to Long Island a lot," said her boyfriend Johnny Terry, who spoke exclusively with The Daily Beast. "She had some older man she was chummy with."Terry, who law-enforcement sources say was Barthelemy's pimp, said she was very secretive about her plans that night and declined an offer for a ride. "This time she said no," said Terry, who denies that he was her pimp. "I woke up in the morning and she wasn't there."



    Additional info:
    The NYPD was able to trace the last two calls to the Madison Square Garden and Times Square area.

    They traced a second phone, that belonged to her ( Melissa), to an ex-con who said he picked it up after a tussle between hookers in Times Square orchestrated by a pimp.
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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    Fri July 10 She also checked her voicemail from two motels in Massapequa, a Budget Inn and a Best Western

    Sun Jul 12: that evening Melissa had a lined up a "date" with a client for $1000 (on Long island)
    Sun Jul 12: Melissa Barthelemy, 24, was last seen leaving her home on 1149 Underhill Ave in The Bronx (MB's phonenumber:917-574-5957 )

    From the above, it would seem as if MB had been out to LI on Friday, went back to the Bronx and left again, for LI on Sunday.

    Does anyone know what she did or where she was on Saturday the 11th? There is no reference to Saturday at all...from anyone?

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    [ame="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7297069&postcount=213"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The GB4 and Shannan Gilbert-Connecting the dots[/ame]

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    some good stuff

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    Has anyone been able to find out where Melissa danced?
    Was it a club or did she do outcall dances?

    I feel there is something about Melissa. He took an unusual interest in her as evidenced by the phone calls. He would have access to some of the other girl's phones, yet no calls were made that we know of.

    I think it's possible he had more of a thing for her - it may be worthwhile to look into.

    if she worked at a club, was there any customers that took an extraordinary liking to her? Would anyone be able to identify or describe anyone?

    If she did out call (private parties) - did anyone request her more than once? Did she work with anyone that may have witnessed anuone with a special attachment to her?

    I haven't seen anyone consider these possibilities on WS or anywhere - but maybe someone has looked into it and not mentioned it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainegirl View Post
    Has anyone been able to find out where Melissa danced?
    Was it a club or did she do outcall dances?

    I feel there is something about Melissa. He took an unusual interest in her as evidenced by the phone calls. He would have access to some of the other girl's phones, yet no calls were made that we know of.

    I think it's possible he had more of a thing for her - it may be worthwhile to look into.

    if she worked at a club, was there any customers that took an extraordinary liking to her? Would anyone be able to identify or describe anyone?

    If she did out call (private parties) - did anyone request her more than once? Did she work with anyone that may have witnessed anuone with a special attachment to her?

    I haven't seen anyone consider these possibilities on WS or anywhere - but maybe someone has looked into it and not mentioned it.....
    True. Or maybe he's just a complete psychopath that managed to get some information out of Melissa before he killed her and used it later on when he was bored via the phone calls to the sister. Who knows? It's trying to rationalize the irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainegirl View Post
    Has anyone been able to find out where Melissa danced?
    Was it a club or did she do outcall dances?

    I feel there is something about Melissa. He took an unusual interest in her as evidenced by the phone calls. He would have access to some of the other girl's phones, yet no calls were made that we know of.

    I think it's possible he had more of a thing for her - it may be worthwhile to look into.

    if she worked at a club, was there any customers that took an extraordinary liking to her? Would anyone be able to identify or describe anyone?

    If she did out call (private parties) - did anyone request her more than once? Did she work with anyone that may have witnessed anuone with a special attachment to her?

    I haven't seen anyone consider these possibilities on WS or anywhere - but maybe someone has looked into it and not mentioned it.....
    There is no information that Melissa ever actually worked as an exotic dancer. This is what she told her family rather than telling them she was an escort. That way she was able to explain how she was making so much money.

    I don't think there is any evidence that the SK had a "thing" for Melissa. He just liked to "play telephone" with the victims families. When a newspaper exposed the calls, he stopped his phone games. Had the newspaper not tipped the SK off he would have continued to taunt other victim's families. IMO.

    So to answer your other questions, we did not explore her regular strip club customers because there weren't any. There is very little information about her and none about how she ended up dead on Long Island.

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    I´m just posting what is in that link due to that I belive it is good information:

    The GB4 and Shannan Gilbert-Connecting the dots[/url]

    Originally Posted by Redbird :
    According to the Manhattan district attorney's office, Barthelemy was arrested on Sept. 12, 2008, at Sixth Avenue and West 46th Street on suspicion of prostitution. In April 2009, she pleaded guilty to attempted prostitution, a misdemeanor, and was sentenced to five days of community service.

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/f...1.2633910?qr=1
    MrsPC posted (I, Theforeigner, have just corrected the date of MB's arrest and rearranged a bit so it's easier to compare, hope that is ok mrsPC ):
    I'm sure this has probably been pointed out before but I couldn't find a post if it was...

    Okay -
    Sep 12, 2008 Barthelemy arrest f. prostitution at 6th & W 46th in Manhattan.
    July 10, 2009 Brainard-Barnes at Super8 Motel, at 59 W 46th in Manhattan (between 5th & 6th)

    So there's definitely a link between their locations in Manhattan
    So 10 months between Barthelemy was arrested and Brainard-Barnes disappeard, both from almost the same location.

    The distance between MB and MBB's locations are: 279 ft

    Here I add a map of Melissa B and Maureen BB's locations (incl the bus st MBB called from) + two locations whereto LE traced some of the phone calls the suspected killer made to Melissas little sister in July/Aug 2009.

    Last edited by Theforeigner; 06-07-2012 at 10:06 AM.
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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    Months later, Terry said, he was approached by the police again, but this time not as a suspect. They wanted to know about the john on Long Island. They asked if he could describe the house and if he could pick it out if he was taken there. He said he could. "They already knew about the guy in Long Island," he said. "I said if they come to get me I would go. They didn't come."
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...cret-life.html

    Have there been any reports naming "this guy in Long Island"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred&edna View Post
    Months later, Terry said, he was approached by the police again, but this time not as a suspect. They wanted to know about the john on Long Island. They asked if he could describe the house and if he could pick it out if he was taken there. He said he could. "They already knew about the guy in Long Island," he said. "I said if they come to get me I would go. They didn't come."
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...cret-life.html

    Have there been any reports naming "this guy in Long Island"?
    some thoughts....

    she had multiple clients on LI and the one Terry knew about wasn't of interest to LE.

    Le learned that "the john on LI" couldn't be a suspect, so the SK must be a different John.

    LE didn't need terry to point it out in person because they knew about the house and they could tell from a question or two that Terry knew the same house, and they may want terry as a witness in the future.

    ...


    A question I would like to know the answer to is if any of the people of interest in OB for some reason didn't have access to a vehicle on April 30th, 2010...
    a question I struggle with is why did our methodically careful perp kill SG, a girl who was not vulnerable? The other victims couldn't be tied to anyone or anyplace (until they were found dead). What was the mistake that was made?

    Did JB tell the perp or the group that he picked this girl up himself, and so the perp was unaware of MP until after the fact or during the attack?

    How did SG become scared of MP?
    At some point in the night did the perp cloak his identity somehow (mask, pitch black room, etc) and SG didn't know who it was?
    Last edited by truthspider; 06-07-2012 at 01:50 PM.
    Who is Jane Doe #9098 ?
    https://identifyus.org/cases/9098


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    Re: How did SG become scared of MP?

    Maybe... when she realized something bad was happening she also realized MP had set-up this "date" for her and thus leading her to believe he was in on it? There was a series of short but rapid calls between SG & MP just before MP went in to get her. Maybe these calls were SG asking him what he had gotten her into and he kept telling her "it was nothing", but she felt he knew more... and so she couldn't trust him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred&edna View Post
    Re: How did SG become scared of MP?

    Maybe... when she realized something bad was happening she also realized MP had set-up this "date" for her and thus leading her to believe he was in on it? There was a series of short but rapid calls between SG & MP just before MP went in to get her. Maybe these calls were SG asking him what he had gotten her into and he kept telling her "it was nothing", but she felt he knew more... and so she couldn't trust him.
    God theorie, however this is the "TIMELINE for Melissa Barthelemy" thread, so please stay on topic
    Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me

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    I'm curious how anyone can be so solidly confident there wasn't something about Melissa and that she was not a dancer. I believe the story is that she started dancing , then went into escorting. I'll go back and look I guess.
    He did not use Maureen's phone to call anyone..... only tried to access her voice mail. Amber didn't have a phone with her so that's easy - but Megan more than likely had hers as she was known to be quite attached to it. He didn't use hers at all as far as we know.
    Seems some are so hung up on it being the Oak Beach Gang that there is no looking at other possibilities.
    Personally I think it's a strange but complete possibility that Shannan is not related to the rest of the victims other than she was either murdered or had a terrible accident several miles from where there were 10 bodies dumped on the parkway.
    It's all good.
    My question is answered - thanks

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    from my own timeline in post #1:

    3.Earlier that evening (July 12, 2009), the blond beauty told her boyfriend that she might be going to Long Island, a frequent haunt of hers. She regularly hung out there with a girlfriend who also worked as an online escort, as well as at the home of a regular client. Her boyfriend said he would oftentimes pick her up from the john's house."She would go to Long Island a lot," said her boyfriend Johnny Terry, who spoke exclusively with The Daily Beast. "She had some older man she was chummy with."Terry, who law-enforcement sources say was Barthelemy's pimp, said she was very secretive about her plans that night and declined an offer for a ride. "This time she said no," said Terry, who denies that he was her pimp. "I woke up in the morning and she wasn't there."
    Does anyone know WHO this girlfriend/escort of Melissa's was?

    It sure would be great if anyone had contact with this woman and could ask her if she would agree to become a member here and join our discussions/research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theforeigner View Post
    I´m just posting what is in that link due to that I belive it is good information:

    The GB4 and Shannan Gilbert-Connecting the dots[/url]

    Originally Posted by Redbird :


    MrsPC posted (I, Theforeigner, have just corrected the date of MB's arrest and rearranged a bit so it's easier to compare, hope that is ok mrsPC ):


    So 10 months between Barthelemy was arrested and Brainard-Barnes disappeard, both from almost the same location.

    The distance between MB and MBB's locations are: 279 ft

    Here I add a map of Melissa B and Maureen BB's locations (incl the bus st MBB called from) + two locations whereto LE traced some of the phone calls the suspected killer made to Melissas little sister in July/Aug 2009.

    Thanks for bumping this thread, TF! This is great work!

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